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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Go back and read your posts in this thread and my responses, that will answer your questions. Asked and answered.
    Which question? I answered your question but did not ask any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sucre View Post
    Which question? I answered your question but did not ask any.
    Don't play games, I quote what I respond to. There were two questions you asked in the quote (included below for clarity) that you had asked of me before in this thread and were answered before in this thread.

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    It's been already voted, right?
    Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    When it comes to health, I just wonder which other costs there are other than the "economic"?
    A cancer is a cancer. An efficient health care system is efficient when it provides:
    - the best possible care allowed by the advance of medical knowledge
    - at the most affordable cost
    - for the most possible people

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Don't play games, I quote what I respond to. There were two questions you asked in the quote (included below for clarity) that you had asked of me before in this thread and were answered before in this thread.
    These questions were "rhetorical" i.e ... just for style. In fact I answer them myself - with a link and with providing the three elements of a premium health care (which you are free to dispute of course).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sucre View Post
    These questions were "rhetorical" i.e ... just for style. In fact I answer them myself - with a link and with providing the three elements of a premium health care (which you are free to dispute of course).
    Well, then your "rhetorical" have been asked and answered and in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Well, then your "rhetorical" have been asked and answered and in this thread.
    ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I agree jobs are the first priority! At some point though we will have to address unaffordable health care costs though that are driving people with jobs into bankruptcy.
    Each time Health care has been tried to be upgraded some politician says that's Communism or Socialism and American health care gets passed to the next generation like a bum passing the last draw of a smoke.

    For health care to be upgraded or even addressed you will need more of an Independent political process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    At some point people will no longer be able to bear the costs and we will have upgrade as the rest of the industrialized world has done.
    That is my wish as well my friend, but how far down must Americans go before that point is reached.
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    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Exactly. The pay for service model simply can't survive in a modern economy driven by technological innovation. We know why -- there is no price elasticity in health care, and there are huge information imbalances between consumers and suppliers. It's the wrong model. It's failing and will fail. It's sad how conservatives are so completely ideologically rabid that they refuse to accept economic reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by presluc View Post
    That is my wish as well my friend, but how far down must Americans go before that point is reached.
    Well, we'll never know, because now, all the previously insured folks will remember is that they paid less and were happier with what they had. Premiums were on the rise, but they hadn't risen to the level of hurt yet (for the person already insured), AND any rise could be blamed on the ramp up to Obamacare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Well, we'll never know, because now, all the previously insured folks will remember is that they paid less and were happier with what they had. Premiums were on the rise, but they hadn't risen to the level of hurt yet (for the person already insured), AND any rise could be blamed on the ramp up to Obamacare.
    Well, first of all I think you have me confused with some party line walker , not true Independent voter and proud of it.
    As far as Obamacare or as I liked to call it INSURANCE AD, true it is a bad plan.

    As far as all the previous folks insured will remember that they paid less and were happier with premiums they had.
    The previous folks had jobs paying a decent wage , keyword here HAD.

    So if your job gets outsourced your insurance will either be cheaper or go on hold to meet your basic needs.

    Too much , check the amount of houses reposessed lately.
    Check the more people applying for medicare and medicade
    Check the credit card debt in America.
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