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Thread: New Health Rankings: Of 17 Nations, U.S. Is Dead Last

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Trust me, given the option I'd go back there in an instant. Even without the internet and indoor plumbing.
    I seriously think you have rose colored glasses on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Do you yodel, then?
    I'm not familiar with any yodeling in Norman England, Ireland, France, Italy, or Antioch. I may have missed the discussion of it in my readings, but I tend to think not.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I seriously think you have rose colored glasses on
    Probably. I'm not saying it would be a fun, pleasant, or enjoyable experience; just better than what we have today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Took my grandmother less than a month to get Alzheimer's. Did your mom not have a lot of data or evidence? A lot of medicine is about having enough information to establish a course of action. My understanding is that in the early stages other disorders can present like Alzheimer's (senility maybe? Idk now).
    So in the US, we need evidence to get a Drs' appt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I'm not making anything up, it's all true. Add to the problem that the Government pays directly to the providers for medicaid, and medicare rather than let the system self regulate via competitive options, and what you end up with is people that are on a government system where there is no, not a single incentive to shop your healthcare out...
    You're living in a dream world. NO ONE is competent to shop around for health care. Medical consumers are uninformed buyers. This is a basic characteristic of the health care market. Even doctors outside their own specialty are clueless. You have a GP with whom you get along well. You have no ability to rank his or her actual skill, efficiency, or thoroughness. A pleasing manner is all that's required. If you have an actual problem, you get a referral to a specialist, maybe look the guy up on the internet, then you make an appointment. Then you do whatever that guy tells you to do. At most, you go get a "second opinion" from the guy he plays golf with. Face it -- nobody is shopping here for health care. Everybody is shopping for agents on whom they will depend to make decisions about their health care. That's the best anyone can do. And you expect to make an actual market out of that???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Oh, I'm sure living in a red state can't be that bad.
    Ever been to rural South Caolina?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    You're living in a dream world. NO ONE is competent to shop around for health care. Medical consumers are uninformed buyers. This is a basic characteristic of the health care market. Even doctors outside their own specialty are clueless. You have a GP with whom you get along well. You have no ability to rank his or her actual skill, efficiency, or thoroughness. A pleasing manner is all that's required. If you have an actual problem, you get a referral to a specialist, maybe look the guy up on the internet, then you make an appointment. Then you do whatever that guy tells you to do. Ay most, you go get a "second opinion" from the guy he plays golf with. Face it -- nobody is shopping here for health care. Everybody is shopping for agents on whom they will depend to make decisions about their health care. That's the best anyone can do. And you expect to make an actual market out of that???
    You're damned right I'd expect to make a market out of that! I don't know much about cars, but I do know or I can sense when things don't seem right when my mechanic tells me something is wrong with my car. Maybe my dream world is based on the assumption that I start by assuming the responsibility for my own accounting. Whether it's my health or my car, I don't assume ever that what I'm being told is always correct. I take it upon myself to become informed about everything that isn't trivial concerning myself and my families education, health and money to name a few.

    Why, do you just take everyone's word on any matter that concerns you because you're not a doctor, or a car mechanic? Boy, are you really that niave or did you sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Are you going to expand on this, or am I to fill in the gaps on my own?
    I encourage you to go ahead and invest in self-edification. I've already been over all this ground on my own behalf and see to reason to do it over again on account of your laziness. Plus it will mean more to you if you put the effort in yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    I encourage you to go ahead and invest in self-edification. I've already been over all this ground on my own behalf and see to reason to do it over again on account of your laziness. Plus it will mean more to you if you put the effort in yourself.
    Perhaps you could learn from your own bugget of wisdom here, and educate yourself about medical care and when it feels right or when it feels wrong, sparky.. LOL

    What a joke.. Totally self pw'ned..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    You're damned right I'd expect to make a market out of that! I don't know much about cars, but I do know or I can sense when things don't seem right when my mechanic tells me something is wrong with my car. Maybe my dream world is based on the assumption that I start by assuming the responsibility for my own accounting. Whether it's my health or my car, I don't assume ever that what I'm being told is always correct. I take it upon myself to become informed about everything that isn't trivial concerning myself and my families education, health and money to name a few.

    Why, do you just take everyone's word on any matter that concerns you because you're not a doctor, or a car mechanic? Boy, are you really that niave or did you sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night?


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    Psssst: price inelasticity, information inequality, and one or two other well known market flaws. Try to stay with economic reality and you may sound a bit less unhinged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Psssst: price inelasticity, information inequality, and one or two other well known market flaws. Try to stay with economic reality and you may sound a bit less unhinged.
    Oh that's right, I forgot you were an economist, and aren't you also a lawyer?


    "price inelasticity" - "information inequality"... BAHAHAHAHA... You're the gift that keeps on giving HoJ.. Keep em coming brother..


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