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Thread: New Health Rankings: Of 17 Nations, U.S. Is Dead Last

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I can think of two answers to your question:

    1) we might not believe, in the system you're proposing, that the result will be either better outcome or lower costs.
    2) we might not be willing to sacrifice the last shreds of our liberty for even more security.
    You choose denial of the results for the rest of the industrialized world, and the liberty to pay higher costs for poorer outcomes. I don't think you will find many wishing to go down that path with you!
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    Re: We're Number......LAST

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Now, try reading the links. Btw, the number of doctors IS listed. And you seem to have missed the very first line:
    Which is less than 1% of our health care spending
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Okay, you posted a bunch of unsourced nonsense about the amount of doctors affected by malpractice,.
    The CBO is unsourced?

    BWHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

    I love the smell of conservative desperation in the morning.

    No independent study -- not one - has found tort reform has any significant impact on health care costs. Deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I'm not interested in childish "No, you didn't", "Yes I did" games. Many conservatives do not believe a single payer system of healthcare delivers either or both better outcomes or lower costs. So your transparent and weak attempt at a "when did you stop beating your wife" question was answered. You just can't accept the answers.
    Yes, I know that in spite of the fact that every advanced nation with a SP system has better healthcare at a lower cost, rightwingers (there are no "conservatives") wont believe it

    That's because for the right, beliefs trump fact
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Okay I found an example of government screwing up health care:

    Low-income women in the Dallas area will find little help looking for a doctor on a state-generated list for the new Texas Women's Health Program, research by The Dallas Morning News shows. The state has touted that it found plenty of doctors for its new program now Comments Dallasnews.com is now using... FULL ARTICLE AT THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS
    Women's Health Program doctors list for Dallas area is full of errors, The News finds

    Thank Gov Perry for screwing up what was a well established program because of your ideological numbskullery

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    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    I love how conservatives are constantly having to deny statistical and scientific reality to support their delusions.
    I'm not conservative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm not conservative.

    You are very conservative, or did you mean you don't call yourself conservative?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm not conservative.
    That's what they all say. Even conservatives realize the term has become a laughingstock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You are very conservative, or did you mean you don't call yourself conservative?
    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    That's what they all say. Even conservatives realize the term has become a laughingstock.
    I'm a pro-life (mild), green (market based and personal), hawk (DemPeaceTheory) libertarian (liberal socially and economically, except as noted). See signature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm a pro-life (mild), green (market based and personal), hawk (DemPeaceTheory) libertarian (liberal socially and economically, except as noted). See signature.

    We know you are conservative about this topic, US health care, as you have opposed an upgrade to UHC as every other industrialized country has done.
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