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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, a very tiny percentage of the public would defend to the death the most expensive health care system in the world. Those people are irrelevant politically, and they have no plan to reduce health care costs in this country.
    No we don't have a plan to reduce the costs because we don't see it as being as much of a need as you folks do. See, we believe health care is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT.

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    BTW, I thought you were leaving the country. What happened with that?
    To make a long story short.... Nobody would take me, so you folks are stuck with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    Anecdote versus actual statistics. That's the difference.

    In real health outcomes "socialized" medicine in Europe outpaces our pay for service system in every category. The rational conclusion is theirs is better.
    Most of those "catagories" are subjective BS. Graphs and charts, created by those with an agenda, can never substitute for a two year survey of Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    No we don't have a plan to reduce the costs because we don't see it as being as much of a need as you folks do. See, we believe health care is a PRIVILEGE, not a RIGHT.
    Thanks for confirming the irrelevance of a position held by a fraction of 1% of Americans that share your views!



    To make a long story short.... Nobody would take me, so you folks are stuck with me.

    That's what I figured would happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Thanks for confirming the irrelevance of a position held by a fraction of 1% of Americans that share your views!
    Just because we're the minority doesn't mean we're wrong.

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    That's what I figured would happen.
    Actually what it came down to was that most of the nations I was looking at are not interested in having ANY current American citizens moving into their country on a permanent basis at this time. So it was as much a slight on the rest of you as it was on me. :-)

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    Re: We're Number......LAST

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Healthcare is a Privilege, not a Right
    But owning a gun is a right not a privilege.

    Only in bizarroconservativeworld do you get this level of moral and legal confusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Just because we're the minority doesn't mean we're wrong.
    Actually it does in a democracy. That's why the GOP and conservatives are going extinct in the US. At long last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Most of those "catagories" are subjective BS. Graphs and charts, created by those with an agenda, can never substitute for a two year survey of Europe.
    I love how conservatives are constantly having to deny statistical and scientific reality to support their delusions.

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    Re: We're Number......LAST

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Even more of a concern when contrasted with this:

    Healthcare spending around the world, country by country

    "The US spends more than any other country in the world on healthcare"

    Healthcare spending around the world, country by country | News | guardian.co.uk
    We spend the most and have the least access too healthcare. A bit sad, but when you run everything ass backwards for the sake of corporations and insurance companies' profits; this is what happens.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We spend the most and have the least access too healthcare. A bit sad, but when you run everything ass backwards for the sake of corporations and insurance companies' profits; this is what happens.
    Yes, eventually the cost of it will force us to go to a single payer system, as most of the industrialized world have done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    But owning a gun is a right not a privilege. Only in bizarroconservativeworld do you get this level of moral and legal confusion.
    You do realize that the US Constitution (via the Second Amendment), and the vast majority of State Constitutions here in the United States specifically protect the RIGHT of the citizens to Keep and Bear Arms, correct?

    You do also realize that no such allowance is made in any of these documents (so far as I am aware) for healthcare, correct?

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