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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    He's a hothead, but I'm hearing a lot of similar talk from a lot of other gun owners also... people need to realize that if they push too far on this issue there really will be violence... possibly a lot of it.
    Look Goshin, I generally agree with you on gun control, and in fact I am quite a bit to the right of you when it comes to gun control issues. Compared to me you are a left-winger on gun regulation.

    BUT you are simply spouting nonsense. Threats of violence in the face of stricter gun control are not the answer. It is despicable to indulge in this sort of thing.

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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Let me be really, really clear on this....if the president, by executive order, makes an attempt to obviate the 2nd amendment or any of our other natural rights it is the RESPONSIBILITY of the American people to remove him from office. That can be done peaceably and it would be preferred to handle things that way but if he chooses not to go peaceably then that opens the door for a whole lot of other options.
    That is your choice, but i am pretty sure the secret service, police, FBI, and other law enforcement agencies are not going to see it that way. The way I see it is that the ban or regulations will come around. there will be a lot of complaining and threatening. There will be some legal challenges, and perhaps some people might protest. There will be a few loonies who pop and get shot or arrested for their troubles, and in the end the world will go on and america will still be here minus a couple of loonies and some guns.

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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    You don't see the left pushing its socialist agenda so far that some will begin to plot against this government? If they
    go too far in their efforts to "ban guns" I can see a lot of people going off the deep end. I don't think the government
    will go that far - but I suspect some states will come very close. Illinois for one.


    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Look Goshin, I generally agree with you on gun control, and in fact I am quite a bit to the right of you when it comes to gun control issues. Compared to me you are a left-winger on gun regulation.

    BUT you are simply spouting nonsense. Threats of violence in the face of stricter gun control are not the answer. It is despicable to indulge in this sort of thing.

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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Let me be really, really clear on this....if the president, by executive order, makes an attempt to obviate the 2nd amendment or any of our other natural rights it is the RESPONSIBILITY of the American people to remove him from office. That can be done peaceably and it would be preferred to handle things that way but if he chooses not to go peaceably then that opens the door for a whole lot of other options.
    The argument then comes down to whether or not a majority of Americans do or don't think a specific action undertaken by the President is "an attempt to obviate the 2nd amendment"

    What happens then? What if 23% of Americans believe as you do but the rest of the citizenry thinks your faction is a bunch of "delusional whackjobs"? What do you do then?
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    vague pap pandering to those all to ready to scream and demand but do little...

    "if it goes another inch" what does that mean? Requires more of the 40% of sales to have a back round check? Will there be blood in the streets over that?

    What in YOUR opinion is President Obama overreach? Say something with meat on the bones, not vague meaningless stuff.

    What do you mean with the rather cliche, 'by whatever means become necessary'???

    More rabble rousing pap, could mean a lot- most likely just hot air and stirring the stink pot.

    Context is everything, what do you think is that 'inch' and what do you mean by your cliche???

    What's that "one more inch"?

    Assigning a $100 fee for every NICS check.
    Limiting the number of NICS checks an FFL can make in a given period of time.
    Outlawing the transfer of firearms between private owners.
    Outlawing common firearms accessories such as 30 round magazines for AR's while allowing them for state use.
    Outlawing semi-automatic firearms.
    National registration of firearms.

    In short, anything which serves to infringe upon the rights of lawful private citizens to properly maintain the ability to defend themselves from known and common threats.

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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    You don't see the left pushing its socialist agenda so far that some will begin to plot against this government? If they
    go too far in their efforts to "ban guns" I can see a lot of people going off the deep end. I don't think the government
    will go that far - but I suspect some states will come very close. Illinois for one.
    I don't care what the left is doing. Responding with violence, or even tacit threats of violence, isn't the answer.

    This talk of how there's going to be civil war and violent outbursts if Obama tries gun confiscation, how is that helpful? It's not. It's just crazy. Why don't those of us on the pro-gun side try to keep level-headed. We have the rational argument, so let's stop it with the rhetoric that makes the lefties look rational by comparison, huh?
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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Look Goshin, I generally agree with you on gun control, and in fact I am quite a bit to the right of you when it comes to gun control issues. Compared to me you are a left-winger on gun regulation.

    BUT you are simply spouting nonsense. Threats of violence in the face of stricter gun control are not the answer. It is despicable to indulge in this sort of thing.
    OMG a gun supporter with a brain? Oh man, you are going to be the first to die and i will mourn your death for it will be the death of a voice of reason within the gun community. I just wish more gun owners were aware that shooting up the streets, or threatening to do so, is not a way to show gun owners can be non-violent.

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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    You don't see the left pushing its socialist agenda so far that some will begin to plot against this government? If they
    go too far in their efforts to "ban guns" I can see a lot of people going off the deep end. I don't think the government
    will go that far - but I suspect some states will come very close. Illinois for one.

    What "socialist agenda" do you see the government pushing? I see a federal government that is just like most others over the history of the nation and particularly so since the Gilded Age of the late 19th Century - basically controlled by the "powers that be"
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    I completely agree with you, but unfortunately not all on the extreme pro rights / libertarian side do.


    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I don't care what the left is doing. Responding with violence, or even tacit threats of violence, isn't the answer.

    This talk of how there's going to be civil war and violent outbursts if Obama tires gun confiscation, how is the helpful? It's not. It's just crazy. Why don't those of us on the pro-gun side try to keep level-headed. We have the rational argument, so let's stop it with the rhetoric that makes the lefties look rational by comparison, huh?

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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    The argument then comes down to whether or not a majority of Americans do or don't think a specific action undertaken by the President is "an attempt to obviate the 2nd amendment"

    What happens then? What if 23% of Americans believe as you do but the rest of the citizenry thinks your faction is a bunch of "delusional whackjobs"? What do you do then?
    We are still a Republic and the natural rights which our Constitution forbids the government from infringing upon still exist and will always exist. If 99.99% of the population wants to ban guns then tough **** because it's still a natural right and the Constitution still prohibits government from taking that kind of action. Once you get rid of the 2nd amendment you may as well get rid of the rest of the Constitution because it won't be worth the paper it's written on.

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