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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by head of joaquin View Post
    All the more reason to ban guns. If these hotheads are willing to kill people to keep their guns, then they are clearly violent lawless people who need to be identified and incarcerated. The best way is to ban guns. Then only the freaks like this guy will keep his gun and we can arrest him for illegal gun ownership, preventing another gun massacre.
    Why incarcerate? Do you honestly think it would teach them anything other than to hate your guts even more? How long would you incarcerate them for?
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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    Why the outrage?

    If somebody breaks into your home and takes your posessitions, violence has been initiated against you and you have every right to defend your family and property.
    Naturally, proposing violence against your fellow citizens and the government itself over nothing more than a suggestion that doesn't tickle one's fancy should concern just about everyone with marbles intact.

    Has anyone suggested otherwise? Better yet, is the actual act of breaking in and seizing property actually on the table here?

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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by Dwight View Post
    To what, be a violence prone jackass? Well yes, up to a point.

    Even “fundamental enumerated rights” are not unlimited, particularly when they start bumping into each other.

    P.S. If you want the fuller access to the 2nd Amendment, sign up for the National Guard.
    given the national guard can be federalized with one signature of the president, your claim is rather stupid

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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The answer is , all the tough talkers plan to shoot the soldiers who come to take their weapons away. Of course, the end result of that is that those soldiers will transform them into a cloud of blood, but they know there's no consequence for talking tough.
    wrong-the place to start is not with the soldiers following orders but those who give the orders and the people sitting on the sidelines demanding that the soldiers berak down doors and confiscate weapons. I think those who constantly call for gun confiscation would be the first targets to start with if the SHTF

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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Really what you are doing is working yourself up into a frenzy and trying to rationalize your ideas for violent actions. I am telling you that this is the common reaction for someone who is excited and worried, but it is also the worst way to go about things. The only thing shooting is going to do is prove gun owners are irrational and prone to freaking out and shooting. I am telling you that your message will not be received as what you are intending it to be, and the path is actually quite wrong. Slow down and think about things. You are backing an idea that shooting people is a way to convince people that gun owners can be safe and level headed.
    Its NEVER been about saftey or levelheadedness. Its about rights. Its about lines you just dont cross without repercusion. Gun ownners dont feel the NEED to convince anyone of anything. As far as they are concerned its an INALEINABLE right just exactly like free speach or freedom of religion.
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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    the OP must be throughly disappointed at the sounds of applause in the background.
    I surely am, not necessarily due to the lack of outrage, but because of the relative acceptance of crackpots who seem to have annointed themselves both legal experts and super soldiers in one fell swoop.

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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Its NEVER been about saftey or levelheadedness. Its about rights. Its about lines you just dont cross without repercusion. Gun ownners dont feel the NEED to convince anyone of anything. As far as they are concerned its an INALEINABLE right just exactly like free speach or freedom of religion.
    If it is like speech then it can be regulated. As long as they let some people who are able to have guns then everything is fine then. Unless you are making the claim that they cannot regulate it and then I just have to say good luck with that. besides, the constitution says arms which refers to weapons. They did not say which ones. Since they were not specific it is clear they were not speaking of present firearms because they were not present back in the time it was written. Basically there is no right that specifically says you can have a gun. If you wish to invoke the supreme court's interpretation to mean you have the right to a firearm then you also have to accept the courts decision that regulation is somethuing the state can do in regards to guns.

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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    We have 240+ years of precedence that says your interpretations are pure bull****. But I will accept there is a LEGAL recourse for those that seek to take firearms from the citizens of the United States. It involves amending the Constitution. Until you do that, when you have elected representatives stating that they will seize weapons, by force if necessary, you have elected representatives that are advocating for the violation of the Constitutional rights of law abiding US citizens. And if anyone is such a moron that they would not only tolerate the abandonment of the constitutional rights of citizens but in fact cheer them on while encouraging the creation of a police state because it suits their ideological fancy...well...that speaks volumes for those types as well.
    Don't know what you are talking about, but not unexpected as so few seem to know real history, preferring only the version that supports their personal beliefs.

    That the words "a well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free State", and the words "common defense" clearly show the true intent and meaning of these Constitutions [i.e., Ark. and U.S.] and prove that it is a political and not an individual right, and, of course, that the State, in her legislative capacity, has the right to regulate and control it: This being the case, then the people, neither individually nor collectively, have the right to keep and bear arms.
    that was from a court decision back in 1842

    Then we have a decision handed down in 1820 that has a bit to say about that whole "well regulated militia" bit, which most unlimited gun advocates either ignore or interpret in some bizarre manner
    The power of Congress over the militia ''being unlimited, except in the two particulars of officering and training them . . . it may be exercised to any extent that may be deemed necessary by Congress. . . . The power of the state government to legislate on the same subjects, having existed prior to the formation of the Constitution, and not having been prohibited by that instrument, it remains with the States, subordinate nevertheless to the paramount law of the General Government . . .''
    and what is the "militia"? The National Defense Act of 1916 stated:
    ''militia of the United States . . . all able-bodied male citizens of the United States and all other able-bodied males who have . . . declared their intention to become citizens of the United States,''

    So those who claim the right to keep and bear arms was intended by the Founders as a means of protesting or overthrowing a tyrannical federal government - ye know not whereof ye speak.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    If it is like speech then it can be regulated. As long as they let some people who are able to have guns then everything is fine then. Unless you are making the claim that they cannot regulate it and then I just have to say good luck with that. besides, the constitution says arms which refers to weapons. They did not say which ones. Since they were not specific it is clear they were not speaking of present firearms because they were not present back in the time it was written. Basically there is no right that specifically says you can have a gun. If you wish to invoke the supreme court's interpretation to mean you have the right to a firearm then you also have to accept the courts decision that regulation is somethuing the state can do in regards to guns.
    Arms is a very specific word actually. It is the short term for armements or weapons. You could at the time the constitution was written quite litteraly own ANY weapon including cannons and full warships if you could afford them. The 2nd amendment is quite specific in saying the the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. It means no one can take your right to arm your self. My view on speach is is the same as on arms you can say what you like. The GOVERNMENT cant procecute or regulate it. A lot of other people see it that way. Personally I dont care anyhow.
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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Well, it looks like Tennessee has yanked Mr. Yeager's permit.

    West TN man loses handgun carry permit after making video threats | wbir.com

    Now, along with the impending gutting of the 2nd amendment it seems that the 1st is getting the same treatment.
    So when does the first amendment guarantee the freedom of speech for an individual that does not consider the responsibilities and consequences of his speech? I mean we are not looking at a man that said something to the example of: "I and people like me are going to fight this politically, not only in my state but all the others too, right to the end. We are going to be calling law makers and sending letters to the people in Washington and start to talk to people all over this nation in public meetings and the media."

    No. He said killing people. Who? That most definitely bothered a lot of people, huh? It probably even bothered the person/office that signed their name to his gun permit.

    Take a look at what the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security had to say about Mr. Yeager: In a statement released Friday officials said they had suspended the handgun carry permit of James Yeager, CEO of Tactical Response based on "material likelihood of risk of harm to the public".

    "The number one priority for our department is to ensure the public's safety. Mr. Yeager's comments were irresponsible, dangerous, and deserved our immediate attention. Due to our concern, as well as that of law enforcement, his handgun permit was suspended immediately. We have notified Mr. Yeager about the suspension today via e-mail. He will receive an official notification of his suspension through the mail," Commissioner Bill Gibbons said.
    Take special note of what Mr. Gibbons said: "irresponsible; dangerous."

    Mr. Yeager might as well of stood up in a movie theater and shout "fire" causing a panic and stampede.
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