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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Wait...you think THOSE results indicate support for greater 'gun control'?

    Arguing with Thunder was exasperating because he was such an ideologue and moron. Turns out...arguing with his less intelligent clone is even more ridiculous.
    You argued with Thunder?

    And you think I'm dumb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You argued with Thunder?

    And you think I'm dumb?
    Indeed. And seeing how quickly you throw him under the bus when he isn't here you say all I need to see concerning your personal character and integrity as well as your intellect.

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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Indeed. And seeing how quickly you throw him under the bus when he isn't here you say all I need to see concerning your personal character and integrity as well as your intellect.
    I'm truly hurt that you don't like my character :sob:
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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    The difference is that I'm not the one imposing sanctions on innocent people.
    No. But you are ignoring a prevalent problem that needs to be addressed.

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    I'm not the one who is suggesting that we treat every swinging dick in this country as if they are a criminal and I'm not the one suggesting that government should use force to coerce private citizens who have done nothing wrong to subject themselves to sanctions because some douchebag holding an elected office refuses to address safety and instead has chosen to address an issue that he figures will score him political points.
    He is choosing to address safety, but everything that is logical about the situation you and other gun proponents do not like--people with mental issues should not be able to get a gun; the amount of ammo that goes in to a clip; closing loopholes at gun shows; not be able to purchase over the internet; etc;---you despise; however, you do like people in schools with guns, which has been proven with Columbine High to not work.
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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

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    Read more and video @: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun Measure (VIDEO)

    Yea stricter gun laws apparently= right for a civil war and this man is happy to fire the first shot to start killing people...
    ****ing nuts. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    It's one random guy out of 311,591,917 talking **** because he mad. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    No. But you are ignoring a prevalent problem that needs to be addressed.

    He is choosing to address safety, but everything that is logical about the situation you and other gun proponents do not like--people with mental issues should not be able to get a gun; the amount of ammo that goes in to a clip; closing loopholes at gun shows; not be able to purchase over the internet; etc;---you despise; however, you do like people in schools with guns, which has been proven with Columbine High to not work.
    Turn off the spin cycle and stop twisting his words.

    Killers in schools is quite different than armed responsible citizens protecting students.
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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Killers in schools is quite different than armed responsible citizens protecting students.
    I agree. So lets take the guns from the killers by stopping the ignorance with the mentally-ill people getting guns in easy ways--loopholes at gun shows; etc;
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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    No. But you are ignoring a prevalent problem that needs to be addressed.

    He is choosing to address safety, but everything that is logical about the situation you and other gun proponents do not like--people with mental issues should not be able to get a gun; the amount of ammo that goes in to a clip; closing loopholes at gun shows; not be able to purchase over the internet; etc;---you despise; however, you do like people in schools with guns, which has been proven with Columbine High to not work.
    The cop on duty at Columbine was not in the school when the shooting started and the rest of the cops chose not to enter the school for something like 30 minutes. Apparently the one resource officer did engage one of the shooters but did so from some distance and did not re-engage when the shooter went back into the building.

    I won't make any bones about it...even with an armed response force on scene it's quite likely that a suicidal shooter in an ambush situation is going to do some damage. It's unlikely that anything other than pure dumb luck would stop the initial assault but it then becomes the follow up which is important and in the case of Columbine that was handled in such a way that the police considered their safety before that of the students.

    I have no desire to get into hypotheticals because they serve only a limited purpose but suffice it to say bans on firearms and ammo will have no effect on the ability of criminals to obtain those items and will restrict the ability of law abiding people to properly defend themselves.

    If we REALLY want to have a discussion about violence than make the damned conversation about THAT instead of about lawful gun owners.


    y'know...I was going to stop at that but this issue is getting tiresome and the same old arguments keep coming up but nobody is bothering to discuss the root causes of this kind of crap.

    Here's the deal....some people have a proclivity for crime and/or violence. There are a lot of reasons that people head this direction and if we really want to stop gun violence then we need to address the right things:

    1. Kids with problems are treated as if they are victims of their environment or their upbringing or some disease. They are not encouraged to overcome those adversities but, rather, taught that it's "not their fault". Well, although it's not the kids fault that his mother is a drunk and his father is a bum that doesn't mean that they don't have a responsibility to be stand up citizens. Just because some kid has some kind of mental issue doesn't mean that he shouldn't be assisted and encouraged to life a lawful and fruitful life despite that disability. If we really care about our children then we will have expectations of them and encourage them to live up to those expectations. But we don't do that. We take a kid like Jared Loughner and just keep on telling him that he's a problem that can't be fixed and leave him to whatever fate befalls him. Sure, we order counseling and evaluations but when that isn't working he's just abandoned. Well, what the hell do you think is going to happen when a kid is told that not only is he broken and unfixable but that now he's on his own? If the people he interacts with don't care about him it probably won't be too long before he acts out against those people.

    2. We have a whole lot of kids growing up in areas where poverty and a general sense of oppression is the common state. What do we do with these kids? We tell them that they have no chance in society because the wealthy or the racists or the capitalists or whatever won't allow them to succeed. We teach them that a life of crime is the only way they are going to be able to overcome their situation. Is it any wonder that the gang "family" ends up holding more sway than any other authority figure? Is it any wonder that they choose violence and rebellion as their "way out"? Even worse, we have sociopaths that prey on these kids. As soon as that kid takes one too many steps into the "legitimate" world they are called sellouts and treated as pariahs.

    Do you really want to stop the culture of violence? If you do then you need to focus on the things that breed violence instead of just looking at the results of treating symptoms instead of the disease.

    The vast majority of gun owners are law abiding, caring and upstanding citizens who want nothing more than to protect themselves from the part of society that, for whatever reason, doesn't comply with the norms of decent and respectable behavior. Don't punish those people because if you do all that will happen is that you will turn those good people into criminals who, left with no other choice, shirk the law just to provide that additional modicum of safety that the state either can not or will not.

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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    I agree. So lets take the guns from the killers by stopping the ignorance with the mentally-ill people getting guns in easy ways--loopholes at gun shows; etc;
    Oh looky, more dishonest spin.

    Prove that mentally ill people buy guns at gun shows.

    How will you identify and track mentally ill people?

    What standards dictate 'mentally ill'?

    I'll be waiting patiently for your detailed response
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    Re: Tactical Response CEO Threatens To 'Start Killing People' Over Possible Obama Gun

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Oh looky, more dishonest spin.
    I'm sorry, I disagree.

    Prove that mentally ill people buy guns at gun shows.
    Many Mentally Ill Can Buy Guns

    How will you identify and track mentally ill people?
    By making it legally mandatory that individual states comply with tracking them.

    What standards dictate 'mentally ill'?
    A good start might be a person that not only wants to hurt themselves but others as well.
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