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Trump releases birth certificate to Bill Maher, demands $5M

I guess you are failing to see the other possibilities behind presentation of such.
That is why your laughter makes no sense.
You are assuming one thing, when it could actually be purposefully done for another.

What do you suppose that other purpose could be?
 
I can understand why liberals have a problem with Trump, but why on earth would a "conservative"?

Tucker Case appears to be very confused about the concept of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"_

Conservatives might have a problem with Trump because Trump is a moronic, attention-starved has-been who clings to an equally moronic conspiracy theory about our president's birthplace.

See, honest conservatives don't blindly support someone like Trump just because he's attacking Obama. An honest conservative would oppose dishonest attacks against Obama just like they would oppose dishonest attacks against a Republican.

Your difficulty with the concept is unsurprising.
 
Your laughing makes no sense.
If Maher excepts what Trump's lawyer submitted to claim on the bet. Maher loses.


If Maher demands the long form, he will lose the bet because I am more than sure Trump can produce his long form just as I could.
But Maher would then also loose on the BC front showing that the short form isn't good enough.
In the end, Maher loses.

I hope he or his representation isn't stupid enough to fall for the trap.

There's no trap. Trump is from outer space. He landed on his "parents" lawn in a meteor...his hair was still intact. All his documentation is fake.
 
Looks like a fake. Where's the raised seal? Where's the crease? He needs to produce at least two newspaper announcements, at least two others born at the same time so we can confirm the certificate number, and at least 2 governors and a director of health to confirm its authenticity.

Those damn Hillary Supporters and their birther theories

The 'Birthers' Began on the Left - The Daily Beast

But there's an inconvenient truth liberals are going to have to confront: The Birthers began not on the right, but on the left.

Investigations for my new book, Wingnuts, revealed that the Birther conspiracy theory was first concocted by renegade members of the original Obama haters, Party Unity My Ass, known more commonly by their acronym, the PUMAs. They were a splinter group of hard-core Hillary Clinton supporters who did not want to give up the ghost after the bitter 50-state Bataan Death March to the 2008 Democratic nomination.
 
I can understand why liberals have a problem with Trump, but why on earth would a "conservative"?

Being conservative does not mean one must support idiots and idiocy simply because they claim to be conservative. In fact, I believe that it is the duty of conservatives to break this stereotype by rejecting and repudiating any and all such idiocy spewed in the name of conservative ideals.

Tucker Case appears to be very confused about the concept of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"_

I'm not confused by it. I realize that it's a very stupid concept to live by. Case in point:

I'm a big proponent of dual-federalism, like that seen in Switzerland and in the pre-civil war US. My political ideology is what I call "neo-anti-federalism". The anti-federalists did a spot on job predicting the dangers of the US constitution. they have been proven correct in their reservations.

Anyway, I am probably one of the most consistent State's rights advocates around (I do not judge something based on my personal agreement with it, but base don whether or not it supports my overall goal of state's rights). For example, you of all people know my openly pro-illegal immigrant position. My personal views on illegal immigration are often described as liberal (although they have nothing to do with leftist thinking whatsoever). However, I was very vocal in my support of Arizona's right to pass their controversial, undeniably anti-illegal immigrant, laws. I do not live in Arizona, and as such I do not oppose that law (while I would actively oppose such a law here in Illinois). Sadly, very few conservatives these days are consistent.

There is, however, one major exception to my state's rights position: I believe in federalizing basic human rights. I believe that the federal government exists to unite the states under the banner of equal treatment and protection for all, regardless of race, religion, gender, sexual orientation, etc. I will not support any state's rights argument to limit anyone's basic human rights on the basis of such characteristics.

Unfortunately, my political ideology of state's rights and dual federalism has been usurped by people who wish to do just that. While we both have an "enemy" in those who support increased federal authority, these people actually do more to undermine my position than those who oppose state's rights do. That makes them an even bigger enemy than the increased federal authority enemy.

The key, however, is that both are enemies of my position. Neither of them become "friends" by virtue of their enmity for each other. They both stand in the way, and they both need to be defeated by virtue of reasoned arguments against their positions. But I am far more voracious in my attacks on those who undermine my positions by virtue of being false allies. The false ally is always greater threat than the open enemy.

And that's why the "enemy of my enemy is my friend" is a phenomenally flawed way of interacting with the world.
 
What is really nauseating about the entire thing is the revelation of what now passes for humor in liberal pop culture.

Read the absolute sht that Maher said about Trump in the Jay Leno article. And you can bet the audience all laughed like hyenas. Read the liberal posts on here attacking Trump. That is humor in the liberal world. To them, humor has become anger, hate and viciousness toward others. The most vile things that can be said are accepted as valid humor.

Bill Maher will never be mainstream again after calling Americans cowards when 9/11 happened. He is consigned to the liberal freak dustbin and he hates that. He rages and hates America for rightfully casting him aside. Which is why the liberals love him, they all know that they are somehow "different" also.
 
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I find Comedy in that scumbag Maher being sued.... see thats good Comedy... Thank You Donald.. hope to see you soon my friend..

I bet that Palins appreciate the humor Donald is bringing to that liberal loser Maher
 
What is really nauseating about the entire thing is the revelation of what now passes for humor in liberal pop culture.

Read the absolute sht that Maher said about Trump in the Jay Leno article. And you can bet the audience all laughed like hyenas. Read the liberal posts on here attacking Trump. That is humor in the liberal world. To them, humor has become anger, hate and viciousness toward others. The most vile things that can be said are accepted as valid humor.

Bill Maher will never be mainstream again after calling Americans cowards when 9/11 happened. He is consigned to the liberal freak dustbin and he hates that. He rages and hates America for rightfully casting him aside. Which is why the liberals love him, they all know that they are somehow "different" also.

Trump is the buffoon that will never be mainstream again.
 
Trump is the buffoon that will never be mainstream again.

God willing we will deport Barry Soetero one day... as he is a fraud..
 
What is really nauseating about the entire thing is the revelation of what now passes for humor in liberal pop culture.

Read the absolute sht that Maher said about Trump in the Jay Leno article. And you can bet the audience all laughed like hyenas. Read the liberal posts on here attacking Trump. That is humor in the liberal world. To them, humor has become anger, hate and viciousness toward others. The most vile things that can be said are accepted as valid humor.

Bill Maher will never be mainstream again after calling Americans cowards when 9/11 happened. He is consigned to the liberal freak dustbin and he hates that. He rages and hates America for rightfully casting him aside. Which is why the liberals love him, they all know that they are somehow "different" also.

Talk about your pot calling the kettle black.
 
What is really nauseating about the entire thing is the revelation of what now passes for humor in liberal pop culture.

Read the absolute sht that Maher said about Trump in the Jay Leno article. And you can bet the audience all laughed like hyenas. Read the liberal posts on here attacking Trump. That is humor in the liberal world. To them, humor has become anger, hate and viciousness toward others. The most vile things that can be said are accepted as valid humor.

Bill Maher will never be mainstream again after calling Americans cowards when 9/11 happened. He is consigned to the liberal freak dustbin and he hates that. He rages and hates America for rightfully casting him aside. Which is why the liberals love him, they all know that they are somehow "different" also.

I'd like to clear something up concerning my commentary in the OP. Perhaps I should have used the word "irony" instead of "hilarious". As I see this counter-challenge offered by Bill Maher and taken up by Donald Trump, is is both humorous and very ironic that the Donald would present a copy of his short-form Certification of Birth because it is exactly what himself and other so-called birthers claimed was not good enough as proof of the POTUS' birth.

He and other birthers insisted that the only valid document to present was the actual long-form Birth Certificate. So, I do find it very hilarious that after all the birthers - from an Illinois Senator who first challenged a then unknown Community Organizer to Sen. Hillary Clinton to a Pastor seeking his 15-minutes of fame to Brieghtbart - that the Donald when challenged himself on this very same front would turn around and issue to his challenger NOT his long-form birth certificate, but the short-form Certificate of (Live) Birth, a document very much like the one he ranted on and on and on about that to himself and others was NOT good enough to act as proof positive that the POTUS was born in this country.

So, to those who still don't get neither the irony nor the humor in this, I got nothin' for you. But that's okay because upon reading the OP article, I laughed hard enough for the both of us. :lamo
 
By the way, Maher's bet was that Trump couldn't prove that he isn't the spawn of his mother having sex with with an orangutan. Trump might not be aware of this, but a BC doesn't prove that your father was not an orangutan.

Oh, I got what Bill Maher considered to be "the bet" which probably flew over his head, but (and I know your post wasn't directed at me, still...) I do find it hilarious that he'd respond the way he did.
 
He and other birthers insisted that the only valid document to present was the actual long-form Birth Certificate. So, I do find it very hilarious that after all the birthers - from an Illinois Senator who first challenged a then unknown Community Organizer to Sen. Hillary Clinton to a Pastor seeking his 15-minutes of fame to Brieghtbart - that the Donald when challenged himself on this very same front would turn around and issue to his challenger NOT his long-form birth certificate, but the short-form Certificate of (Live) Birth, a document very much like the one he ranted on and on and on about that to himself and others was NOT good enough to act as proof positive that the POTUS was born in this country.

It seems that Maher has two ways to respond. He can either agree with Trump and say the Short form does not qualify as proof of birth... Or he can acknowledge that it does and (possibly) pay 5 mil to charity.
 
Just found this article on YahooNews' The Lookout blog. Yahoo News exclusive: Trump releases birth certificate to Bill Maher, demands $5M | The Lookout - Yahoo! News Seems Bill Maher might have written a check his mouth can't cash. Still, I found one thing very laughable about The Donald's response to Bill Maher's birther challenge.

If folks recall, Donald Trump critisized the President for releasing the short-form version of his "Certification of Live Birth" even going as far as saying it wasn't good enough to substantiate the details of his birth and that the long-form was a more viable document. But when challenged to release his own birth certificate, what does the Donald provide?

A short-form version of his "Certification of Birth".

H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S! :lol: You really can't make this stuff up, folks!

Whoa, now that's amazing!

Trump was born? You mean, born of woman, just as ordinary men were born?

I thought he had to have been sent to Earth on a royal chariot or something.

or perhaps built in a lab by super advanced aliens bent on making a parody of humanity and working for the alien version of The Onion.
 
Colbert also threw down some sort of challenge to The Donald on this subject, but I never did hear the outcome of that one.
 
Colbert also threw down some sort of challenge to The Donald on this subject, but I never did hear the outcome of that one.

Something like that:


Stephen Colbert Challenges Donald Trump: $1 Million To Be Teabagged


Stephen Colbert responded to Donald Trump’s birther “challenge” to President Obama with just the kind of counter-challenge Trump deserved: Colbert said he’d write a check for $1 million to the charity of Trump’s choice, “if you will let me dip my b*** in your mouth.”
 
It seems that Maher has two ways to respond. He can either agree with Trump and say the Short form does not qualify as proof of birth... Or he can acknowledge that it does and (possibly) pay 5 mil to charity.
But of course, Maher has more than the framed responses you consider. He can also avoid paying because he never made a real offer. Jokes from a comedian about public figures are fair game.
 
But of course, Maher has more than the framed responses you consider. He can also avoid paying because he never made a real offer. Jokes from a comedian about public figures are fair game.

That is the reason I put "possibly" in parenthises. So.. Well done, I guess. Trump set up the trap and I wouldn't be surprised if it was on purpose, that Maher can respond that the release - since it is short form - doesn't prove anything. I personally think that Maher should just make the charitable donation.
 
Are you suggesting that the U.S. courts do not except a Certification of Birth as proof?

Evidence, not proof. If there is a dispute, DNA or other medical evidence is required. When you fill out a birth certificate application for your child, nobody performs a test to determine who the actual biological father is.
 
It seems that Maher has two ways to respond. He can either agree with Trump and say the Short form does not qualify as proof of birth... Or he can acknowledge that it does and (possibly) pay 5 mil to charity.

Pssst: "Bets" in comedy routines aren't legally enforceable contracts. Trump knowledge of the law is about as flawed as his expertise in picking winning candidates and hairpieces.
 
Evidence, not proof. If there is a dispute, DNA or other medical evidence is required. When you fill out a birth certificate application for your child, nobody performs a test to determine who the actual biological father is.
Most people do not need this explained to them. Oh well.
The court establishes "proof".
With the acceptance of the BC as evidence, and absent a challenge, the court will make the determination that the BC was sufficient.
Which means it has been proven.
 
Trump has no case. It's amazing there are 8 pages arguing about whether the short form would be enough proof in court.

This is kicked on a MTD in every single court in the country. No reasonable person would have construed Maher's joke as an offer to enter into a contract. There's no offer, no enforceble contract to sue on. Stop pretending to know what evidence would suffice in court.
 
The person resurrecting a dead topic as their first post says:
Trump has no case. It's amazing there are 8 pages arguing about whether the short form would be enough proof in court.

This is kicked on a MTD in every single court in the country. No reasonable person would have construed Maher's joke as an offer to enter into a contract. There's no offer, no enforceble contract to sue on. Stop pretending to know what evidence would suffice in court.
Which is strange as it was already stated that there was not valid contract. No real challenge.

Which doesn't preclude entertaining the BC argument had there been a real challenge.
Which is what was being done.

So stop pretending like you know what was happening, as you obviously didn't.


Secondly; it would be better not to use abbreviation such as MTD (Motion To Dismiss) unless it has already been establish what it means, or you establish such in your post. This way you do not confuse the unenlightened.


Btw, welcome to the forum.
 
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