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    Re: Trump releases birth certificate to Bill Maher, demands $5M

    Just watched the supposed challenge. It really isn't there.
    Maher has wiggle room, and will do what many a liberal does.
    He isn't going to pay up but will instead wiggle out of it.
    Wiggle wiggle, wiggle, ya!



    Challenge found at the end of the video on this page.
    start @ the 5:05 mark.
    Bill Maher’s Offer To Trump On Leno: I’ll Donate $5M If He Proves He’s Not ‘Spawn’ Of Orangutan | Mediaite

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    Re: Trump releases birth certificate to Bill Maher, demands $5M

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post

    You still can't answer??

    No worries. Your refusal to answer, answers for you.


    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    <squawk>I guess that applies to you not answering the question proffered to you.</squawk>
    I see you still can't think for yourself and have to rely on what others post to you feed you your response.

    Your parrotry aside, I didn't answer because your question is a non-sequitur since you don't specify for what cause a court might be presented a birth certificate.


    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Are you suggesting that the U.S. courts do not except a Certification of Birth as proof?
    Even though you refuse to answer my question (since you know it buries your assertion that Maher loses over Trump's BC), I will answer yours anyway.

    The answer is ... it depends on what the matter of the lawsuit is about. If a birth certifcate is offered as proof of where a person was born, then yes, the court accepts a certification of birth as proof of where the person was born. If a birth certifcate is offered as proof of when a person was born, then yes, the court accepts a certification of birth as proof of when the person is born. If Donald Trump offers his birth certifcate as proof that the man listed as his father on it is his biological father, then no, a court will not accept that as proof since (and I'm answering my own question to you since you refused to answer it) ... since it offers no proof that the man listed on it as his father was his biological father.

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    Re: Trump releases birth certificate to Bill Maher, demands $5M

    I thought the bet had a time limit on it, didn't mayer say the certificate had to be presented BEFORE the election?

    it was part of the back and forth those two had giving each other a ton of free publicity.

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    Re: Trump releases birth certificate to Bill Maher, demands $5M

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I thought the bet had a time limit on it, didn't mayer say the certificate had to be presented BEFORE the election?

    it was part of the back and forth those two had giving each other a ton of free publicity.
    He made the joke just a few nights ago.

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    Re: Trump releases birth certificate to Bill Maher, demands $5M

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    He made the joke just a few nights ago.
    i get so confused, there were so many challenges and counter demands throughout this year's republican nomination process, what i like the call the gimp circus of the GOP, I became to lost track on who wanted whom to show what....

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    Re: Trump releases birth certificate to Bill Maher, demands $5M

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I didn't answer because your question is a non-sequitur since you don't specify for what cause a court might be presented a birth certificate.
    What utter absurdity.

    Still squawking I see.
    I have already told you I have no problem throwing the **** a squawker squawks, back at the squawker.
    Did you forget?
    Stop squawking and you wont get it.
    It is that simple.


    I didn't specify? iLOL
    What topic are we discussing again? This one of Mahers's challenge to Trump?
    How could it be for anything other than what we are discussing?
    All you said above was nothing but distraction.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Even though you refuse to answer my question (since you know it buries your assertion that Maher loses over Trump's BC), I will answer yours anyway.

    The answer is ... it depends on what the matter of the lawsuit is about. If a birth certifcate is offered as proof of where a person was born, then yes, the court accepts a certification of birth as proof of where the person was born. If a birth certifcate is offered as proof of when a person was born, then yes, the court accepts a certification of birth as proof of when the person is born. If Donald Trump offers his birth certifcate as proof that the man listed as his father on it is his biological father, then no, a court will not accept that as proof since (and I'm answering my own question to you since you refused to answer it) ... since it offers no proof that the man listed on it as his father was his biological father.
    More absurd squawking about that which you know not huh?

    My question placed yours in the proper perspective. And was intended to answer your question, had you correctly answered it.
    That is why it was asked, because the correct answer does answer your question.

    Unfortunately you have the answer wrong!
    Which buries your assertion, not mine.

    Your assertion is ridiculous.
    Just how do you think they established such in the past when they didn't know of blood types and DNA?
    The Birth Certificate.
    A Court excepts a BC for purposes of biological paternal lineage unless challenged by other information.


    Now if there was an actual offer made by Maher, he would lose with the BC being presented. Even if Trump had to take it to court.
    And as stated, if he demands the long form, he again loses because he just showed a short form isn't good enough.

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    Re: Trump releases birth certificate to Bill Maher, demands $5M

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    What utter absurdity.

    Still squawking I see.
    I have already told you I have no problem throwing the **** a squawker squawks, back at the squawker.
    Did you forget?
    Stop squawking and you wont get it.
    It is that simple.
    Great, now you're squawking about me pointing out that most of what you post is squawking. You've stuck yourself into an endless loop.

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I didn't specify? iLOL
    What topic are we discussing again? This one of Mahers's challenge to Trump?
    How could it be for anything other than what we are discussing?
    All you said above was nothing but distraction.
    That's correct, you didn't specify. It would have been foolish of me to assume that you limited your generalized question to proving "biological paternity" since, though you project that Liberals like to leave wiggle room, it's actually what you do.


    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    My question placed yours in the proper perspective. And was intended to answer your question, had you correctly answered it.
    That is why it was asked, because the correct answer does answer your question.

    Unfortunately you have the answer wrong!
    Which buries your assertion, not mine.

    Your assertion is ridiculous.
    Just how do you think they established such in the past when they didn't know of blood types and DNA?
    The Birth Certificate.

    A Court excepts a BC for purposes of biological paternal lineage unless challenged by other information.
    I highlighted the part which destroys your position -- we are not in the past, we are in the present; where scientific testing proves biological paternity, not a form which is only intended to prove legal paternity.

    Trumps certification of birth offers no proof as to who his actual biological father is.


    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post

    Now if there was an actual offer made by Maher, he would lose with the BC being presented. Even if Trump had to take it to court.
    And as stated, if he demands the long form, he again loses because he just showed a short form isn't good enough.
    There is nothing on the long form either which proves "Fred C. Trump" is his biological father.

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    Re: Trump releases birth certificate to Bill Maher, demands $5M

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Just found this article on YahooNews' The Lookout blog. Yahoo News exclusive: Trump releases birth certificate to Bill Maher, demands $5M | The Lookout - Yahoo! News Seems Bill Maher might have written a check his mouth can't cash. Still, I found one thing very laughable about The Donald's response to Bill Maher's birther challenge.

    If folks recall, Donald Trump critisized the President for releasing the short-form version of his "Certification of Live Birth" even going as far as saying it wasn't good enough to substantiate the details of his birth and that the long-form was a more viable document. But when challenged to release his own birth certificate, what does the Donald provide?

    A short-form version of his "Certification of Birth".

    H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S! You really can't make this stuff up, folks!
    I'm guessing that whatever Trump produces won't meet Maher's rigid requirements. Kind of like Obama's birth certificate.
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    Re: Trump releases birth certificate to Bill Maher, demands $5M

    This is not an enforceable contract. Nice publicity stunt, though. Trump has a knack for that.

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    Re: Trump releases birth certificate to Bill Maher, demands $5M

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Great, now you're squawking about me pointing out that most of what you post is squawking. You've stuck yourself into an endless loop.
    You are telling untruths again.
    It is only if the other had squawked first that it is returned.
    As you are the one squawking knowing I will return it, then this is all on you.



    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    That's correct, you didn't specify. It would have been foolish of me to assume that you limited your generalized question to proving "biological paternity" since, though you project that Liberals like to leave wiggle room, it's actually what you do.
    Absurdity at it's best. We are speaking about a specific subject and did not need to specify any such thing as it was already topic specific. What you expect is on you, not me.

    Which means we are limited to that of which we are speaking.
    You should know that.

    And as for my wiggle room comment, watch what happens. He will wiggle out of it.



    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I highlighted the part which destroys your position -- we are not in the past, we are in the present; where scientific testing proves biological paternity, not a form which is only intended to prove legal paternity.
    You haven't highlighted anything that destroys my position. It is hilarious that you think it does, as it clearly does not.

    The courts still accept the BC for purposes of biological paternal lineage establishment. Unless there is a challenge, it is sufficient.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Trumps certification of birth offers no proof as to who his actual biological father is.
    Wrong! A court of law will accept it as such. Unless a reasonable challenge can be made, such as with blood type or DNA.
    And if you don't believe so, show us the law.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    There is nothing on the long form either which proves "Fred C. Trump" is his biological father.
    It would serve the same purpose of the short form in this matter.
    But because of the history of the BC issue, you can not rule out that Maher may say that is what he now wants.
    If he is stupid enough to request it, it will show that a long form of a Certificate of Birth was sufficient for him to establish who Trump's father was.
    But as I already said, I am more than sure he will wiggle out of it. I would be very surprised if he doesn't.

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