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    Re: Welfare Recipients Take out Cash at Strip Clubs, Liquor Stores and X-rated Shops.

    While it appears that states can restrict EBT cash withdrawal locations, it doesn't do anything to stop someone from using a bank ATM, get 20 bucks, and pick up a dildo for later.

    And I don't think they have a say in what a person does with that money anyway. If the state is dumb enough to give cash, then they don't get to attach strings.

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    Re: Welfare Recipients Take out Cash at Strip Clubs, Liquor Stores and X-rated Shops.

    Could also be that's where those people work part time. There should already be restrictions in place as to what they can spend the funds on. However, giving cash when they already have a card is foolish.

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    Re: Welfare Recipients Take out Cash at Strip Clubs, Liquor Stores and X-rated Shops.

    There are a lot of reforms which can be done to the welfare system; though I think it would be foolhardy to scrape it all together. One thing is that if you're not working and you're on welfare, I think we should get some Community Service out of you. It could be hard given various real life limitations; but there's no such thing as a free lunch and that needs to be impressed. Perhaps we've been dealing with this as such a free lunch program that the problems that have evolved were bound to evolve. At the same accord, I find it hard to argue for scraping the system all together.

    And besides, we pay more to corporations and bailing out banks. And those bastards don't have any limitations.
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    Re: Welfare Recipients Take out Cash at Strip Clubs, Liquor Stores and X-rated Shops.

    I'm not happy with the system and I'm offended by the abuse. However, dozens (12, 24, 36, 48. 60?) isn't even hundreds (or the article would say that to make their point) out of 200 million is an insignificant percentage. If anything, it seems to show that most of the withdrawals are legitimate.

    Misuse of welfare funds should carry severe penalties because it harms others indirectly. But this article seems to imply the system is working rather well. I would like to see a hotline where fraud could be reported but I'm only dreaming.

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    Re: Welfare Recipients Take out Cash at Strip Clubs, Liquor Stores and X-rated Shops.

    This is totally ridiculous. I've never understood why it is that Food Stamps exist in the first place. These people should get a pre-sorted selection of FOOD every month based on the number of adults and children in the family. I'll even be nice enough to allow for the selections to be oriented towards specific ethnic groups (Latino, Asian, etc...) within the limits that the food is healthy and nutritious, not the crap I see people buying with their EBT cards all the time.

    When it comes to Welfare itself.... It becomes difficult to provide products rather than a monetary value. However, one can limit the types of products which can be bought with that money. In fact, most of the states I'm aware of do exactly that. Unfortunately, there are ways to get around it. One of them is cashing out a value into paper money which cannot be tracked. Another is "trading" purchases, which I hear is quite popular. You buy someone $50 worth of food/product on your EBT card and they give you the $50 in cash or product valued at that amount which you wouldn't be able to buy with the card.... alcohol, tobacco, jewelry, etc....

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    Re: Welfare Recipients Take out Cash at Strip Clubs, Liquor Stores and X-rated Shops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    There are a lot of reforms which can be done to the welfare system; though I think it would be foolhardy to scrape it all together. One thing is that if you're not working and you're on welfare, I think we should get some Community Service out of you. It could be hard given various real life limitations; but there's no such thing as a free lunch and that needs to be impressed. Perhaps we've been dealing with this as such a free lunch program that the problems that have evolved were bound to evolve. At the same accord, I find it hard to argue for scraping the system all together.

    And besides, we pay more to corporations and bailing out banks. And those bastards don't have any limitations.
    I always liked this idea because I thought that it could also help curb the immigration problem we have in America. There are people crossing the border from Mexico to come here and do jobs that Americans simply refuse to do - pick fruit/vegetables, for example. These types of jobs could be the ones assigned to people on assistance, thereby pushing jobs away from illegals/immigrants and giving them back to Americans.

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    Re: Welfare Recipients Take out Cash at Strip Clubs, Liquor Stores and X-rated Shops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    This is totally ridiculous. I've never understood why it is that Food Stamps exist in the first place. These people should get a pre-sorted selection of FOOD every month based on the number of adults and children in the family. I'll even be nice enough to allow for the selections to be oriented towards specific ethnic groups (Latino, Asian, etc...) within the limits that the food is healthy and nutritious, not the crap I see people buying with their EBT cards all the time.

    When it comes to Welfare itself.... It becomes difficult to provide products rather than a monetary value. However, one can limit the types of products which can be bought with that money. In fact, most of the states I'm aware of do exactly that. Unfortunately, there are ways to get around it. One of them is cashing out a value into paper money which cannot be tracked. Another is "trading" purchases, which I hear is quite popular. You buy someone $50 worth of food/product on your EBT card and they give you the $50 in cash or product valued at that amount which you wouldn't be able to buy with the card.... alcohol, tobacco, jewelry, etc....
    Although around us they usually Charged Double for the stamps or value for that cash or products.

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    Re: Welfare Recipients Take out Cash at Strip Clubs, Liquor Stores and X-rated Shops.

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Although around us they usually Charged Double for the stamps or value for that cash or products.
    I couldn't tell you what the conversion rate around here is, though I'm quite certain two of my future sisters-in-law know EXACTLY what it is.

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    Re: Welfare Recipients Take out Cash at Strip Clubs, Liquor Stores and X-rated Shops.

    Wow you people really have no idea what you're talking about do you? To be on TANF you have to look for work 35 hours a week and if a job isn't obtained within a month you're assigned to a community service assignment 35+ hours a week to make well below minimum wage. There is a hotline to report welfare fraud and there is always the option of going to your loxal office and reporting it You cannot just sit on your ass and receive TANF like the old AFDC. BNot to mention that there is at least one interviee with your caseworker every week. The problem is that TANF is designed to push people into low wage jobs. You cannot go to college while on TANF and if you get a part time job working 30 hours a week you are dtstill required to job search the other 5 hours. TANF disreguards your income in incriments once a job is found. %100 for the first 3 months, 80% for the next 3 months and so on until its down to %40. So if someone starts making $3000 a month while on TANF they will still receive the cash for another year.

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    Re: Welfare Recipients Take out Cash at Strip Clubs, Liquor Stores and X-rated Shops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chelsea View Post
    Wow you people really have no idea what you're talking about do you? To be on TANF you have to look for work 3 hours a week and if a job isn't obtained within a month you're assigned to a community service assignment 35+ hours a week to make well below minimum wage. There is a hotline to report welfare fraud and there is always the option of going to your loxal office and reporting it You cannot just sit on your ass and receive TANF like the old AFDC. BNot to mention that there is at least one interviee with your caseworker every week. The problem is that TANF is designed to push people into low wage jobs. You cannot go to college while on TANF and if you get a part time job working 30 hours a week you are dtstill required to job search the other 5 hours. TANF disreguards your income in incriments once a job is found. %100 for the first 3 months, 80% for the next 3 months and so on until its down to %40. So if someone starts making $3000 a month while on TANF they will still receive the cash for another year.
    Depends on State which is what the OP stated. The States can make their own Laws.

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