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    Re: Lead exposure in children correlated to violent crime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It was regulated further in 1991. See the link above.
    Um YEAH, apparently you didn't read my post look at the latter end of my sentence.
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    Re: Lead exposure in children correlated to violent crime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its not the copper JB, its the lead solder that was commonly used in copper piping that could allow the leaching of lead from the solder by corrosive water.
    the most common form of lead poisoning is from old lead based batteries and from the old paint that was lead based. Also believe it or not using lead based crystal products and drinking fruit juicee from them oveer a long period can cause mild lead poinsoning.

    Toady the most common form is thought to be from products coated with "soft lead"
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    Re: Lead exposure in children correlated to violent crime

    If you are concerned about you lead level start taking EDTA. Developed Germany 1935, the simple amino
    acid saved hundreds of our sailors during WW2 from lead poisoning. Inexpensive.

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    Re: Lead exposure in children correlated to violent crime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    This is very interesting JB! And from my previous career in drinking water, I am also aware of the dangers of lead in drinking water, and the fact that regulation of lead and copper did not begin until 1991 under the Lead and Copper Rule:

    "Lead and copper enter drinking water primarily through plumbing materials. Exposure to lead and copper may cause health problems ranging from stomach distress to brain damage. On June 7, 1991, EPA published a regulation to control lead and copper in drinking water. This regulation is known as the Lead and Copper Rule (also referred to as the LCR or 1991 Rule).

    The treatment technique for the rule requires systems to monitor drinking water at customer taps. If lead concentrations exceed an action level of 15 ppb or copper concentrations exceed an action level of 1.3 ppm in more than 10% of customer taps sampled, the system must undertake a number of additional actions to control corrosion. If the action level for lead is exceeded, the system must also inform the public about steps they should take to protect their health and may have to replace lead service lines under their control."

    Lead and Copper Rule | Lead & Copper Rule | US EPA
    The current issue of Mother Jones has a terrific article about crime rates as a function of leaded gasoline use. Truly amazing!

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    Re: Lead exposure in children correlated to violent crime

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    The current issue of Mother Jones has a terrific article about crime rates as a function of leaded gasoline use. Truly amazing!
    I don't doubt it is one of the factors.
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    Re: Lead exposure in children correlated to violent crime

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I don't doubt it is one of the factors.
    I'm sure longterm exposure has some neurological side effects, but I would think numerous other factors would be much, much larger influences on your propensity towards violence.

    But what the hell do I know? I can't figure out my own brain, let alone a different one.
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    Re: Lead exposure in children correlated to violent crime

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I'm sure longterm exposure has some neurological side effects, but I would think numerous other factors would be much, much larger influences on your propensity towards violence.
    I agree, didn't mean in imply otherwise.
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    Re: Lead exposure in children correlated to violent crime

    You could just as easily attribute the higher incidence in crime during this period to influence caused by the rise of rock and roll music.

    Sticking two graphs on top of each other to attempt to find a "correlation", and then trying to imply a causation, is considered pseudo-science.

    There is no actual scientific study here.

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