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    Re: Steve King Moves Forward on Bill to End Birthright Citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    Steve King, where were you when we needed you, no one spoke for our country and now it's gone.

    Need to make this bill retroactive about thirty years in order to mitigate the incredible liberal engineered destruction that spread across the entire American landscape.

    Why not now, Obama won the election. The loons don't need to demand that all worship the devastating cancer of multi-culturalism any more.
    Amazing. In one fell swoop you not only show your racism but also you total clulessness of the American story.
    We are a nation of immigrants, Sherlock.

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    Re: Steve King Moves Forward on Bill to End Birthright Citizenship

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    I wonder what self-destruct mechanism brought this genius idea forth.
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    Re: Steve King Moves Forward on Bill to End Birthright Citizenship

    I agree and the first action of such a bill should be the revocation of Steve King's citizenship, which he received through birthright. In fact, any and all who support such legislation should receive the same. They didn't do jack**** to earn their citizenship either, so why should they be special.
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    Re: Steve King Moves Forward on Bill to End Birthright Citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Well I for one support his efforts. IMO, the courts have misread what the intent of the 14th amendment was regarding citizenship. IMO at least one parent needs to be a US citizen for the child to be grant citizenship at birth.
    Why? Especially since the whole point of the 14th ammendment was that since the Dred Scott case ruled that Blacks were not citizens, then basically a grandfather clause would have set in to restrict citizenship to Blacks.

    I'm not sure why people think that birthright citizenship is an issue. Do y'all really think it allows illegal immigrants to become legal and stay in the US? It doesn't. You have to be 21 to sponsor your parents for their green card.
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    Re: Steve King Moves Forward on Bill to End Birthright Citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Do y'all really think it allows illegal immigrants to become legal and stay in the US?
    When they define "illegal immigrant" to include those of us born here to parents who came here illegally it does.

    They believe themselves special because they didn't dribble down the thigh of a citizen before fertilization could occur, as opposed to not dribbling down the thigh of an immigrant. Who cares that neither baby did anything to earn their citizenship, it's all about making the "other" person into something more nefarious.
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    Re: Steve King Moves Forward on Bill to End Birthright Citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Amazing. In one fell swoop you not only show your racism but also you total clulessness of the American story.
    We are a nation of immigrants, Sherlock.
    "We?" Next you're going to be talking about "Our" country. You know nothing of the American experience.

    What equivalence is there between the hard working, self reliant, Western European immigrants of 100 years ago and you 3rd world, welfare seeking, Obama worshiping illegals of today? America's former immigrants were culture and nation builders, you were imported here to destroy and steal.

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    Re: Steve King Moves Forward on Bill to End Birthright Citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Why? Especially since the whole point of the 14th ammendment was that since the Dred Scott case ruled that Blacks were not citizens, then basically a grandfather clause would have set in to restrict citizenship to Blacks.

    I'm not sure why people think that birthright citizenship is an issue. Do y'all really think it allows illegal immigrants to become legal and stay in the US? It doesn't. You have to be 21 to sponsor your parents for their green card.
    the issue I have is when those crossing the borders illegally and then give birth to a child. While the courts don't agree I tend to support the idea that the 14th has been misinterperted This sites sums it up pretty well.

    http://www.14thamendment.us/
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    Re: Steve King Moves Forward on Bill to End Birthright Citizenship

    Regardless of what you believe about illegal immigration and reform of our immigration policies it is objectively strange that the US is one of the only countries that has birthright citizenship. Most countries have been on a trend towards repealing it, I think France, Australia, and Ireland did it a few years ago. The argument being it no longer made sense in the modern globalized world and massively reduced control over immigration and citizenship cases which could create problems and might hamper assimilation efforts. I don't know if that's true or not the counter might very well be that by making the US more hospitable to such citizenship it makes itself an immigration magnet which helps the country. Either way its completely legitimate to have the discussion it's just too bad it's so tainted with anti-hispanic fears and the immigration mess.

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    Re: Steve King Moves Forward on Bill to End Birthright Citizenship

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    Karnack sees (attempted) Latino voter suppression on the horizon.
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    Re: Steve King Moves Forward on Bill to End Birthright Citizenship

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    "We?" Next you're going to be talking about "Our" country. You know nothing of the American experience.

    What equivalence is there between the hard working, self reliant, Western European immigrants of 100 years ago and you 3rd world, welfare seeking, Obama worshiping illegals of today? America's former immigrants were culture and nation builders, you were imported here to destroy and steal.

    Another fine example of racism supported by false history. What you think of Hispanic immigrants, legal and illegal, is nothing compared to the words and actions of many Americans when the Irish and Italians began "flooding" into America.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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