• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:153/170/200]

re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

Who cares what Bill O'reilly thinks?

Number 1 Cable News show for more than ten years iirc.

Two books at the top of the NYT bestseller list simultaneously.

Based on that, I'd say a lot of people care what Bill-O thinks and says and does.

Oh, and did you happen to catch the fact that the former Marine who was close to death and being held in a Mexican jail was released only after Bill-O promised to take significant measures if he wasn't released and enjoying home and family by Christmas?

Yeah. Who cares what Bill O thinks?
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

It is perfectly reasonable to dislike those who are actively and openly or covertly, stealthily and/or passively planning to kill or injure or subjugate you or treat you as less than a full citizen.

Don't forget to check under your bed.

Do you deny that such an agenda exists?

Do you deny that your sources are about as reliable as Art Bell?

A small percentage of Muslims actively and regularly work at achieving a global Caliphate.

JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ!
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

Oh, and did you happen to catch the fact that the former Marine who was close to death and being held in a Mexican jail was released only after Bill-O promised to take significant measures if he wasn't released and enjoying home and family by Christmas?

I think it had a lot more to do with the involvement of Senator Bill Nelson, the Mexican ambassador, and the State Department.

Where do you get your information, the National Enquirer?
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

I think it had a lot more to do with the involvement of Senator Bill Nelson, the Mexican ambassador, and the State Department.

Where do you get your information, the National Enquirer?


Fair and balanced, baby. Fair and balanced.

And don't look down your nose at the Nat Enq. They've scooped many of your more 'acceptable' rags on occasion.

But, then again, there are some who just can't help but play the pissing game.
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

Don't forget to check under your bed.

Do you deny that your sources are about as reliable as Art Bell?

JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZ!

I'll take your lack of denials as an inability to deny the points I made.

Everyone take note.
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

People seem to be confused again Current TV was bought by Al Jazeera English not Al Jazeera. Al Jazeera English does not have the Muslim fundamentalist opinions of Al Jazeera. If they did I highly doubt they would have done an interview with Richard Dawkins or broadcasted the American third party debates.
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

Who cares what Al Gore does?

The only way you could have that attitude is by not knowing how Al's actions might hurt the USA or by not caring if Al hurts the USA.

So, my question to you is are you a low-information not carer or a disloyal not carer?
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

People seem to be confused again Current TV was bought by Al Jazeera English not Al Jazeera. Al Jazeera English does not have the Muslim fundamentalist opinions of Al Jazeera. If they did I highly doubt they would have done an interview with Richard Dawkins or broadcasted the American third party debates.

You don't seem to have much of a grasp of how the Islamic plan for taking over the USA and then achieving world domination works. And, failing that, one would at least expect you to be familiar with Islamic tactics for the more pedestrian issues that they have to deal with.

I'm sure you are more confused now than you were before. So, I'll help you out a bit.

There is a Muslim Brotherhood in the Middle East which everyone acknowledges is a radical Islamist organization. There is also a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood in the USA that many people, people probably not unlike yourself, who think it is completely different and separate in nature from the other Muslim Brotherhood. The BAD Muslim Brotherhood.

Well, here's a news flash.

They both have the same goal.


It's interesting to me that Liberals can get their panties in a twist because Romney chose women for his Massachusetts Gubernatorial administration from a binder which held their resumes, yet, when it comes to keeping America secure from long-term takeover by groups of people who have a Holy book that tells them to do it (take over the world by waging violent and non-violent Jihad) and how to do it, and who have continually proved their willingness and ability to do it on 9/11 and elsewhere at other times to others and who SPECIFICALLY have a hard-on for gays, women's libbers, family planning advocates, drug users and atheists...it amazes me that some Progressives can departmentalize Al Jazeera into a bad AJ over there in the ME and a good AJ here in the US.

Where do they spawn people like you?

And then you'll wonder how they could book someone like Dawkins as a guest.

Because they know you will be fooled into accepting AJ English more readily if they pander to your existing belief system and feature on their network people you guys love and people that Conservatives disagree with politically.

That way whenever we Conservatives attack AJ's guests you will defend the guest AND AJ.

This is what they are referring to when they call Americans, 'useful idiots' or 'sheeple'.
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

They are anti-american unless they did a 180 since post 9/11 when they use to praise OBL. They're much more anti-Israeli however but that usually doesn't give them too many points here either.

I don't know, maybe they're less biased than they use to be hopefully they're much less so than back in the day when they threw a birthday party for Samir Kuntar and praised him for being a hero after he spent time in an Israeli prison for killing at least three people, one being a four year old girl, they found her brain matter on his rifle. That was in 2008.

I don't believe they deserve a pass for their past actions. They still represent and have in their employ (I'd bet) people who are committed to the downfall of the West and America in particular.

As for Israel, we KNOW they have a hard-on for Jews.

And, again, how can American Progressives, Liberals and Democrats ever abide the unbridled, unabashed Muslim bigotry against Jews? They wouldn't for one second look the other way in the face of White vs Black bigotry or anti-Women-Homosexual-Hispanic bigotry.

But when it comes to bigotry against Jews they are 'down' with it (they readily accept it).


In fact, some if the BIGGEST fans of Islamist stealth infiltration and/or subversion are Jews, Gays and Women.

Somebody PLEASE explain that to me.
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

Good one.

Except what especially many far right wingers consider to be Anti-American comes from their own president and in most cases is simply something that they do not agree with.

So I don't put much stock in that opinion.

AJ is not particularly anti-American.

:cuckoo:

:screwy

Ladies and gents, the above position is, IMHO, a pretty fair approximation of what a stealth Jihadist might say. But, it would be even more sad (but all too typical) if it really reflected a misinformed American with no ties to Islam.
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

The whole USG slept through that one unless you think Bush did it, not very likely.

Al Jazeera has not issued a Fatwa that I'm aware of. They seem to be a capitalist enterprise. Does it trouble you that they are a Mid-East company or am I missing something you're trying to communicate?

Tell me how much you know about the Islamist plan for global domination and I'll fill in the parts you haven't gotten yet.

If you don't know anything about it I'll have to also recommend a book or two. :)
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

Could you name me three specific examples of unequivocal anti-American propaganda that AJ has broadcast in the past year?

If their goal is to make money in America of course they would try to tone down their anti-American sentiments.

If their goal is to convince gullible Americans that an increased Islamic presence in America is a good thing of course they would try to tone down their anti-American sentiments.

If their goal was to achieve BOTH aims of course they would operate under the guise that all they were doing was to try to make money.

And anyone who suspected otherwise would be branded paranoid or an anti-Muslim bigot.

Foolproof strategy to fool just enough gullible Americans to view and treat ALL Muslims just as we would any other minority even though NONE of the other minorities have SO MUCH unexplored and ominous baggage.
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

The funny thing is....

The conservatives who are against Al Jazeera should actually be for the channel, considering the stories going after Obama and his administration that Al Jazeera have quite often. I saw one just yesterday being highly critical of the Obama administration and defending the common American....

Guess most conservatives are basing their view on propaganda from right wing blogs and not from first hand experience. Hell there is more "anti-Al Q rhetoric" and even "pro-Israeli talk" on the channel than there is "anti-American" talk.. but hey!
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

It has to be put into perspective.... Al Gore said HELLLL NO to an offer from O´Rielly buddy Glenn Beck... I am just guessing that has a big impact on Mr O'Rielly's attitude.

You really don't get O'Reilly. Maybe that's because the signal from the USA to Spain isn't great.
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

You really don't get O'Reilly. Maybe that's because the signal from the USA to Spain isn't great.

Oh I get him fully.. he is an arrogant asshole who caters to the lowest common denominator. On top of that he is sexist, racist and homophobic.
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

The Left were slamming Romney all thru the campaign about how little income tax he paid, but when Al Gore avoids paying it, they cheer. Hypocrites.
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

I personally don't think anyone has the right to criticize the sale itself if it was done legally.

If the american people are going to be in an outrage because of this... stop watching al-jazeera. Let those who want to watch it, watch it. And those who don't... don't. I personally take any news al-jazeera puts out there with a pinch of salt and a hard dose of skepticism since it is a media channel with an agenda.
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

The Left were slamming Romney all thru the campaign about how little income tax he paid, but when Al Gore avoids paying it, they cheer. Hypocrites.

Al Gore aint running for office.

Romney was just a symbol on a bad sickness of which Al Gore is part.
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

The Left were slamming Romney all thru the campaign about how little income tax he paid, but when Al Gore avoids paying it, they cheer. Hypocrites.

That's a weird post. I read the whole thread and I don't recall seeing anyone cheering Al Gore, for pretty much anything. Do you have it in mind that, because he was a Dem, every leftish person must be cheering him? Even when no one's opening their mouth?
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

I dislike Al Gore very much, but truth be told, who gives a crap.
Good for him, he made a buck on his tv station.
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

Do you agree with Oreilly....I more agree than disagree, im admittedly not an Al Gore fan

O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' - POLITICO.com
The AJ aspect is neither here nor there to me, but on the the tax avoidance (legal, to be fair) aspect I agree with O'Reilly. Someone who advocates "the rich" paying higher taxes, almost to the point that it should be considered a selfless and moral duty, shouldn't be factoring in taxes AT ALL when doing their own deals.
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

The funny thing is....

The conservatives who are against Al Jazeera should actually be for the channel, considering the stories going after Obama and his administration that Al Jazeera have quite often. I saw one just yesterday being highly critical of the Obama administration and defending the common American....

Guess most conservatives are basing their view on propaganda from right wing blogs and not from first hand experience. Hell there is more "anti-Al Q rhetoric" and even "pro-Israeli talk" on the channel than there is "anti-American" talk.. but hey!

In 2008 AJ praised Samir Kuntar as a hero and celebrated his birthday with him. That was right after he was released from an Israeli prison on a prisoner exchange type of deal. He was locked up for killing three Israeli's one of which was a four year old girl.

They're very anti-Israeli unless they did a 180 since then.
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

I don't believe they deserve a pass for their past actions. They still represent and have in their employ (I'd bet) people who are committed to the downfall of the West and America in particular.

As for Israel, we KNOW they have a hard-on for Jews.

And, again, how can American Progressives, Liberals and Democrats ever abide the unbridled, unabashed Muslim bigotry against Jews? They wouldn't for one second look the other way in the face of White vs Black bigotry or anti-Women-Homosexual-Hispanic bigotry.

But when it comes to bigotry against Jews they are 'down' with it (they readily accept it).


In fact, some if the BIGGEST fans of Islamist stealth infiltration and/or subversion are Jews, Gays and Women.

Somebody PLEASE explain that to me.

I honestly don't know why so many people are supportive of AJ given their track record. I mean I'm usually an optimistic person but at this point it's up to AJ to prove themselves to the rest of us if they want to be perceived as more fair and balanced. I think 'progressives' just have a soft spot for Muslims since after 9/11 trying to prove that they aren't all horrible people which is fine except they've sort of taken it a bit too far so that they cannot see that it causes them to discriminate against other people and turn a blind eye to those they think they are 'protecting'. Just some observations.

I don't know about the whole stealth infiltration thing and that anyone would be for it.
 
re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

The AJ aspect is neither here nor there to me, but on the the tax avoidance (legal, to be fair) aspect I agree with O'Reilly. Someone who advocates "the rich" paying higher taxes, almost to the point that it should be considered a selfless and moral duty, shouldn't be factoring in taxes AT ALL when doing their own deals.

Im going to answer all the responses to me from Tactical Dan and Andalube in this post ok...Im old and cant keep up with all you guys throwing stuff at me...im just not bright enough :)

I remember quite well all the propaganda and anti american printing al jazeera has done and their televison propaganda...in the beginning of the war they did nothing but try to damage the us effort.
I am desperately trying to find an article by a mid east expert that I read a couple of months ago...about Al Jazeera has calmed their rhetoric and became more main stream...because they like ALL other muslim groups want a foothold in the United states...WELL HERE IT IS....Personally..this is my opinion...I do not hate muslims...but I fear them, I fear them because I never know which one of them that is near me hates ME and is my enemy. I fear them because they hate us and I fear them because of all ive seen and heard...like their putting out contracts to murder on anyone that says anything they dont like...I could go on and on but you all know the drill....lastly dont try to "SELL" me the...Most muslims are good muslims crap...let them tell me that they believe that most americans are good people first...and let them denounce PUBLICALLY with conviction their religion of hate and murder...then we can talk...but muslim cheerleaders make me shake my head to be honest...
 
Back
Top Bottom