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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    It probably has more to do with people not liking the anti-american sentiment which AJ has not done a good job separating themselves from and has in the past done an excellent job perpetrating it.
    Could you name me three specific examples of unequivocal anti-American propaganda that AJ has broadcast in the past year?
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Could you name me three specific examples of unequivocal anti-American propaganda that AJ has broadcast in the past year?
    Why? I didn't say anything about the last year I'm just a fan of calling things like they are and not automatically jumping to accusations of racism in cases that more likely have to do with a hesitation towards the past anti-american sentiment of AJ.
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    The whole USG slept through that one unless you think Bush did it, not very likely.

    Al Jazeera has not issued a Fatwa that I'm aware of. They seem to be a capitalist enterprise. Does it trouble you that they are a Mid-East company or am I missing something you're trying to communicate?

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    And if you'd known there were ONLY 19 Sleeper Cell members in the US on the morning of 9/11/01 you probably would have slept through that alarm, too.

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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    It probably has more to do with people not liking the anti-american sentiment which AJ has not done a good job separating themselves from and has in the past done an excellent job perpetrating it.
    Good one.

    Except what especially many far right wingers consider to be Anti-American comes from their own president and in most cases is simply something that they do not agree with.

    So I don't put much stock in that opinion.

    AJ is not particularly anti-American.

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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    That's certainly been Murdoch's attitude to paying tax.
    Weak comparison; I don't recall Murdoch ever being a proponent for higher taxes like the golden boy who just avoided paying them is. And BTW, that doesn't make Murdoch a hypocrite but it sure does make AL Gore one.
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    About what? That Christianity isn't a religion?

    This maybe true, I just don't think O'Reilly or Fox are capable of telling it.

    Neither you nor they can provide any evidence of this. I'd go so far as to guess you've never even watched it.

    I'd call it even.
    Of course you'd call it even. It isn't, but of course you'd say it is.

    I have watched AJ in America and of course they do a good job of keeping the Islamist agenda in the background. Are you suggesting there is no Islamic agenda to achieve global dominion?

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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

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    Who cares what Al Gore does?
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Weak comparison; I don't recall Murdoch ever being a proponent for higher taxes like the golden boy who just avoided paying them is. And BTW, that doesn't make Murdoch a hypocrite but it sure does make AL Gore one.
    He'll be paying taxes on this sale, far more than most of us will pay in our individual lifetimes.
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Good one.

    Except what especially many far right wingers consider to be Anti-American comes from their own president and in most cases is simply something that they do not agree with.

    So I don't put much stock in that opinion.

    AJ is not particularly anti-American.
    They are anti-american unless they did a 180 since post 9/11 when they use to praise OBL. They're much more anti-Israeli however but that usually doesn't give them too many points here either.

    I don't know, maybe they're less biased than they use to be hopefully they're much less so than back in the day when they threw a birthday party for Samir Kuntar and praised him for being a hero after he spent time in an Israeli prison for killing at least three people, one being a four year old girl, they found her brain matter on his rifle. That was in 2008.
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    What this really is about is some people even if they don't want to admit it and perhaps its a subconcious reaction to AJ.

    They don't like Muslims and to a lesser extent arabs.

    Simple as that.
    It is perfectly reasonable to dislike those who are actively and openly or covertly, stealthily and/or passively planning to kill or injure or subjugate you or treat you as less than a full citizen.

    Do you deny that such an agenda exists?

    It's called the Koran.

    A small percentage of Muslims actively and regularly work at achieving a global Caliphate.

    Some of them believe that only violence can achieve the goal.

    These are the radicals.

    But some readers might quickly knee-jerk the reply, 'but the radicals are in the minority.'

    "It matters not a whit that most Muslims are not radicals."

    our current conflict is as much ideological as it is military. Walid Phares calls it a "War of Ideas," and he is certainly onto something.

    Many will object that "few people actually believe in radical Islam," and we heat things along the lines of "only 10 percent of Muslims are radicals/sympathetic to the radicals," and that "only a miniscule number of Americans/Westerners buy into radical Islam so the danger is overblown."

    But history is not made by taking a vote at every important moment. Only 1/3 of the American colonists wanted independence from Great Britain in 1776. The Jacobins were a minority of Frenchmen in 1789, and the Bolsheviks a minority of Russians in 1917. The quota on imported sugar in America today is not there because it has the broad support of Americans but because of the political influence of a small minority of sugar growers in Louisiana. Less than half of Americans even vote in most elections, and the more local the election is the fewer people vote. History and outcomes are made by determined and well-organized minorities.

    So it is with radical Islam. It matters not a whit that most Muslims are not radicals. If the average Muslim moderates are not willing to stand up and demand that Muslim Brotherhood influence be purged from Muslim organizations, then the radicals win, no matter how few their numbers. Consider the fate of Molly Norris, the Seattle cartoonist who organized the "Everybody Draw Mohammed" day in 2010 as a protest against censorship. After threats she canceled the contest and apologized. No matter, the threats continued until she has changed her name and gone into hiding on the advice of the FBI. There was and is no support from Muslim groups, or hardly anyone outside of a few conservatives, for that matter, for the concept of free speech.

    The danger is rather a sort of "creeping sharia" whereby we suffer the death of a thousand cuts rather than the one by the guillotine. Muslim radicals aim to deceive us as to their true intention, which is to spread their sharia(or "shariah") into the West, replacing our values with their own. In short, their objective is to take us over peacefully over a long period of time, not militarily all at once.
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