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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Now tell me if AJE wanted to push radical Islam would they make stuff like this:
    [video=youtube;U0Xn60Zw03A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Xn60Zw03A[/video
    or
    [video=youtube;W4OhTWpHpHI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4OhTWpHpHI[/video
    or
    [video=youtube;znMYDsbkwRw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znMYDsbkwRw[/vide]
    There are some very simple explanations for it.

    1. Islam is not monolithic. There are some GREAT Muslims. Some who I would be proud to call my friend. Some I'd welcome into my own family by marriage. Some who are great, loyal, trustworthy, patriotic, noble, hard-working, devoutly religious Americans. But who is hiding behind their thobe? Who takes advantage of the trust engendered by the great Muslims? When considering these vids I am inclined to believe they represent the best and sincerest intentions of good, decent people. But does that mean I should blindly accept Islam into my society only to, predictably, have to eventually deal with the problems Islam poses to my own society? An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.


    2. Anyone who has ever met a girl's father before taking her out on a date and screwing her brains out later knows that you put your best foot forward in order to gain acceptance. Once you have gained acceptance only then can you execute your plan to defile the man's daughter. Or, more innocently, those who are old enough to remember the "Leave it to Beaver" TV show, think about Eddie Haskell. We all knew he was up to no good despite the innocent act he put on when around the Cleaver parents. And Ward & June both knew Eddie was sneaky but there wasn't all that much he could do to get Wally and Beaver in trouble, partly because Wally was very aware that Eddie was a 'character.' As this pertains to the vids, AJ wants to win our acceptance and once they do who in their wake will try to fulfill the Koran's instructions to try to bring the Great Satan (America) down? The good Muslims at AJ can't be held responsible for what Jihadists do. Just like you can't be responsibnle for the bad things your neighbor does. But, nonetheless,the Good Muslims will effectively 'open the door' so that whatever the Bad Muslims do thereafter won't be blamed on them. Or, the 'Eddie Haskell' Muslims are just BS'ing us into accepting them into our society and once they are accepted they will screw us all as much as they can. All for the greater glory of Allah.

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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    If you praise the man behind the deaths of thousands of american citizens and give him preferential treatment than I would call you anti-american.
    where did AJ ever praise OBL?

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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I don't see any real danger.
    Sorry.
    Some people blithely and blindly walk through dark alleys at night without giving any thought to the possibility of danger in that alley.

    While i am sorry you lack the ability to recognize the dangers of an increased level of Islamic presence in our society I expect you will refrain from arguing there is no danger from it.

    A responsible person would not aggressively recommend that people walk down dark alleys at night, would he?

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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    Some people blithely and blindly walk through dark alleys at night without giving any thought to the possibility of danger in that alley.

    While i am sorry you lack the ability to recognize the dangers of an increased level of Islamic presence in our society I expect you will refrain from arguing there is no danger from it.

    A responsible person would not aggressively recommend that people walk down dark alleys at night, would he?
    Those two situations are clearly not the same.
    Al Jazeera is owned by our ally, it just doesn't matter.
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    That's the same sort of thinking that equates disagreeing with certain policies of the Israeli government with anti-semitism.
    But, you would readily admit many anti-Semites (bigots) cloak their bigotry with the cry that they were just criticizing the Israeli policies, yes?

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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    There are some very simple explanations for it.

    1. Islam is not monolithic. There are some GREAT Muslims. Some who I would be proud to call my friend. Some I'd welcome into my own family by marriage. Some who are great, loyal, trustworthy, patriotic, noble, hard-working, devoutly religious Americans. But who is hiding behind their thobe? Who takes advantage of the trust engendered by the great Muslims? When considering these vids I am inclined to believe they represent the best and sincerest intentions of good, decent people. But does that mean I should blindly accept Islam into my society only to, predictably, have to eventually deal with the problems Islam poses to my own society? An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.


    2. Anyone who has ever met a girl's father before taking her out on a date and screwing her brains out later knows that you put your best foot forward in order to gain acceptance. Once you have gained acceptance only then can you execute your plan to defile the man's daughter. Or, more innocently, those who are old enough to remember the "Leave it to Beaver" TV show, think about Eddie Haskell. We all knew he was up to no good despite the innocent act he put on when around the Cleaver parents. And Ward & June both knew Eddie was sneaky but there wasn't all that much he could do to get Wally and Beaver in trouble, partly because Wally was very aware that Eddie was a 'character.' As this pertains to the vids, AJ wants to win our acceptance and once they do who in their wake will try to fulfill the Koran's instructions to try to bring the Great Satan (America) down? The good Muslims at AJ can't be held responsible for what Jihadists do. Just like you can't be responsibnle for the bad things your neighbor does. But, nonetheless,the Good Muslims will effectively 'open the door' so that whatever the Bad Muslims do thereafter won't be blamed on them. Or, the 'Eddie Haskell' Muslims are just BS'ing us into accepting them into our society and once they are accepted they will screw us all as much as they can. All for the greater glory of Allah.
    So mostly Christian staff are going to help Islam spread? I don't know how Christians spread Islam. Since is the standard they have set out, this is the standard they have to come to be known for, if they abandon it no one will watch them. Most Muslims are good people but like Christians there are those that take it to extremes.

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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Those two situations are clearly not the same.
    Al Jazeera is owned by our ally, it just doesn't matter.
    You have seen what can happen when the U.S. tries to deal with Islamic governments with the belief that by simply establishing a working arrangement with the government that the government can and will keep bthe citizens in line.

    At Tora Bora despite having a good relationship with the Afghan government, when U.S. forces gave the Afghan military the honor of capturing/killing OBL the troops on the scene, the majority of them probably fundamentalists themselves, allowed OBL to escape.

    Almost ten years later, when Pres. Obama had the chance to nail OBL, once and for all, he had learned his lesson. Despite calling Pakistan our ally he refused to share pre-knowledge of Operation Geronimo with the Pakistanis.

    Certainly President Obama's lesson isn't lost on you.

    Just because Qutar is our ally doesn't mean that we don't have anything to worry about in terms of an increase in long term islamic presence in America.

    You do recognize the prime Islamic directive, don't you?

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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    If you praise the man behind the deaths of thousands of american citizens and give him preferential treatment than I would call you anti-american.
    That is not what I'm referring to. I asked, does criticizing a president (or anyone in government) = criticizing the people?
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    So mostly Christian staff are going to help Islam spread? I don't know how Christians spread Islam. Since is the standard they have set out, this is the standard they have to come to be known for, if they abandon it no one will watch them. Most Muslims are good people but like Christians there are those that take it to extremes.
    One of the ways Al Jazeera's presence in American society can further the goal of eventual global domination is by lulling Americans into a false sense of security. If the AJE staff was ALL Christian (if that was even able to be achieved) all that AJE would have to do is to regularly present a positive image of Muslims so that Americans who are currently nervous about Muslims could become mostly neutral about Muslims and Islam.

    Once Americans begin to reach that important benchmark the next phase if the campaign can commence.

    And, like I said before in this thread, "It matters not a whit that most Muslims are not radicals."

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    Many will object that "few people actually believe in radical Islam," and we heat things along the lines of "only 10 percent of Muslims are radicals/sympathetic to the radicals," and that "only a miniscule number of Americans/Westerners buy into radical Islam so the danger is overblown."

    But history is not made by taking a vote at every important moment. Only 1/3 of the American colonists wanted independence from Great Britain in 1776. The Jacobins were a minority of Frenchmen in 1789, and the Bolsheviks a minority of Russians in 1917. The quota on imported sugar in America today is not there because it has the broad support of Americans but because of the political influence of a small minority of sugar growers in Louisiana. Less than half of Americans even vote in most elections, and the more local the election is the fewer people vote. History and outcomes are made by determined and well-organized minorities.

    So it is with radical Islam. It matters not a whit that most Muslims are not radicals. If the average Muslim moderates are not willing to stand up and demand that Muslim Brotherhood influence be purged from Muslim organizations, then the radicals win, no matter how few their numbers. Consider the fate of Molly Norris, the Seattle cartoonist who organized the "Everybody Draw Mohammed" day in 2010 as a protest against censorship. After threats she canceled the contest and apologized. No matter, the threats continued until she has changed her name and gone into hiding on the advice of the FBI. There was and is no support from Muslim groups, or hardly anyone outside of a few conservatives, for that matter, for the concept of free speech.

    The danger is rather a sort of "creeping sharia" whereby we suffer the death of a thousand cuts rather than the one by the guillotine. Muslim radicals aim to deceive us as to their true intention, which is to spread their sharia(or "shariah") into the West, replacing our values with their own. In short, their objective is to take us over peacefully over a long period of time, not militarily all at once.

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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    One of the ways Al Jazeera's presence in American society can further the goal of eventual global domination is by lulling Americans into a false sense of security. If the AJE staff was ALL Christian (if that was even able to be achieved) all that AJE would have to do is to regularly present a positive image of Muslims so that Americans who are currently nervous about Muslims could become mostly neutral about Muslims and Islam.

    Once Americans begin to reach that important benchmark the next phase if the campaign can commence.

    And, like I said before in this thread, "It matters not a whit that most Muslims are not radicals."

    The Redhunter: The War of Ideas: Islamic Extremism and the West Archives

    Please read this or I'll have to keep posting it.
    So do you subscribe to WND? Seems to be something they would pull. Is there no chance they could just be a news organization?

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