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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    I've been saying throughout this thread that they have in the past had a lot of anti-american sentiments...that shouldn't be confusing.

    I also wouldn't completely separate the US government from America, we elect our representatives and our commander in chief.
    So if you criticize a president you are criticizing the people?
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    So if you criticize a president you are criticizing the people?
    If you praise the man behind the deaths of thousands of american citizens and give him preferential treatment than I would call you anti-american.
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    If you praise the man behind the deaths of thousands of american citizens and give him preferential treatment than I would call you anti-american.
    Is praising him (which AJ never did, btw) worse than funneling billions of US tax dollars to him? Ronnie Reagan did that.
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Is praising him (which AJ never did, btw) worse than funneling billions of US tax dollars to him? Ronnie Reagan did that.
    You guys keep trying to change the subject...start a new one if you want to talk about Ronald Reagan or all the shady people/governments the US gave money to in the past.
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    You guys keep trying to change the subject...start a new one if you want to talk about Ronald Reagan or all the shady people/governments the US gave money to in the past.
    It isn't really a change of subject. You raised one particular individual as an example of AJ's anti-American bend, which bend you were using to justify your opinion of Al Gore doing business with them. It's a perfectly legitimate extension of the subject under discussion to talk about who else was associated with him.
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    It isn't really a change of subject. You raised one particular individual as an example of AJ's anti-American bend, which bend you were using to justify your opinion of Al Gore doing business with them. It's a perfectly legitimate extension of the subject under discussion to talk about who else was associated with him.
    You really think talking about whether or not AJ has a strong anti-american anti-israeli bias has something to do with Ronald reagan and whether US tax dollars ever funded people we later found detestable?

    It seemed more like a red herring to me...
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Monserrat View Post
    You really think talking about whether or not AJ has a strong anti-american anti-israeli bias has something to do with Ronald reagan and whether US tax dollars ever funded people we later found detestable?

    It seemed more like a red herring to me...
    Red herring or not, you brought the man up.
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Red herring or not, you brought the man up.
    Sure, in reference to a completely separate topic and in a completely different way.

    Maybe we should go on and talk about the shoes that the man wore and human rights involving little kids in factories working on shoes. A bit exaggerated but hopefully you get the point. That's what a red herring does and why it's a logical fallacy, it tries to make itself relevant in some small way when really it isn't.
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    It was a wise move to try and sell before tax rates went up. Any rational person is going to want to minimize their tax burden and maximize profit. What would make him a sleazy hypocrite is if Al Gore or Democrats that are all about taxing the rich and corporations see nothing wrong with what was done yet still advocate for their tax increases.
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    Some people who own homes bordering on wildlife areas often see wild deer on their own property.

    Everyone has a soft spot in their hearts for Bambi and deer in general and so they consider the presence of deer a good thing and even a special event.

    But those with a long history of deer interactions and those with the education to understand the possibnle negative impact of close contact with deer are the ones whose opinions and warnings about deer should be listened to carefully.

    Deer trample and eat flowers and vegetables in backyards and gardens. And deer carry ticks and other parasites that can be deadly to humans.

    So, even though deer are beautiful animals they can be harmful to our health.

    You may not recognize the potential danger of letting Al Jazeera gain greater acceptance in America just like the average homeowner might not be aware of the poitential dangers of allowing wild deer to come onto their land and get close to pets and people.

    But the danger is there whether you recognize it or not.
    I don't see any real danger.
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