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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    Those of you who subscribe to this idea have to remember that the American GOVERNMENT exists by the people and for the people. It is not some alienated entity that exists apart from our most fundamental interests or without our active participation.
    So I assume then you supported Obamacare?

    I suspect this point of view of yours comes drectly from the Middle East (it certainly DOES NOT apply to an American government) where governments routinely DO NOT reflect the will or the best interests or the active participation of the people.
    Governments, democratic or totalitarian, often take actions that the majority of the people do not support. You talk as if Americans are one entity, that we don't have our own individual interests. That is very collectivist thinking there for a "conservative."

    Peddle your alienation campaign elsewhere. It won't work here.
    Who am I trying to alienate?
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I see AJ as neither an ally nor an adversary.



    Then you must see Fox News as anti-american because they constantly criticize our government.
    I get the impression you are not a born and raised American and you are trying to figure things out.

    Let me help.

    A widely quoted Bedouin saying is "I against my brother, my brothers and I against my cousins, then my cousins and I against strangers".

    In this case you and your Liberal brothers are against your Conservative cousins and both you and your brothers and me and my Conservative brothers sometimes take issue with our Uncle Sam.

    Al Jazeera would be the stranger in this analogy.

    There. Got it?

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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    I get the impression you are not a born and raised American and you are trying to figure things out.

    Let me help.

    A widely quoted Bedouin saying is "I against my brother, my brothers and I against my cousins, then my cousins and I against strangers".

    In this case you and your Liberal brothers are against your Conservative cousins and both you and your brothers and me and my Conservative brothers sometimes take issue with our Uncle Sam.

    Al Jazeera would be the stranger in this analogy.

    There. Got it?
    That makes much more sense. Foreigners....BAAAAD!
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    I get the impression you are not a born and raised American and you are trying to figure things out.
    Once again, you are wrong. Born and raised American. Love my country. Which is why I often dislike what my government is doing to it.


    A widely quoted Bedouin saying is "I against my brother, my brothers and I against my cousins, then my cousins and I against strangers".

    In this case you and your Liberal brothers are against your Conservative cousins and both you and your brothers and me and my Conservative brothers sometimes take issue with our Uncle Sam.

    Al Jazeera would be the stranger in this analogy.

    There. Got it?
    Yeah I get it. More nationalistic bulls***
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    That must be the most hypocritical statement I've read on this site in a long, long while.
    A widely quoted Bedouin saying is "I against my brother, my brothers and I against my cousins, then my cousins and I against strangers".

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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    A widely quoted Bedouin saying is "I against my brother, my brothers and I against my cousins, then my cousins and I against strangers".
    The day I read you praise the President I'll think again.
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    That makes much more sense. Foreigners....BAAAAD!
    Incorrect.

    THIS PASSAGE IS CRUCIAL TO UNDERSTANDING THE POTENTIAL DANGER OF ALLOWING AL JAZEERA INTO OUR CIVILIZATION.

    The situation in the world today borders on the fantastic. Never before in history has one civilization allowed large numbers of those who come from an alien, and immutably hostile situation, to settle deep within that first civilization’s borders.

    Never before have the members of one civilization failed to investigate, and even willfully refused to investigate, or to listen to those who warn about, the consequences for all non-Muslims of the belief-system of Islam.

    In history, the phenomenon of the Barbarians at the Gates is hardly new. Those barbarians lay siege; if they win, they enter in triumph. Should they lose, the advanced civilization survives. But never before have the gates been opened, to an entering force that has not even been identified or understood. Never before have the inhabitants of the by-now vulnerable city made efforts not to recognize, or realize, what they have done, and what they have undone.

    That demographic intrusion shows no signs of diminishing. The systematic building of mosques and madrasas, paid for by Saudi Arabia, everywhere in the Western world, helps to make the conduct of Muslim life easier. Western populations have been trained to make much of “celebrating diversity” and “promoting difference” and constructing, on a base of militant but unexamined pluralism, an edifice of legal rights and entitlements.

    These rights, these entitlements, this militant pluralism are exploited by Muslims who do not believe in pluralism. Nor do they accept the individual rights of conscience and free speech, the legal equality of men and women, and of religious and racial minorities, recognized, for example, in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

    Their current claim to support pluralism is based on the need to protect, and increase the power of, the Muslim umma, or Community, within the West, until such time as that umma no longer needs to pretend to have any interest in Western pluralism and Western values.
    Fitzgerald: Islam for Infidels, Part One - Jihad Watch

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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    This is an interesting perspective, but I don't think it works simply because you're equating physical attributes to inner thought. The two are in no way the same. All people of a particular group looking the same as a matter of their outward physical appearance is indeed absurd. Being able to look at a person and instinctively knowing what their mindset is is not realistic, hence there will always be a level of the unknown involved, and in that unknown exists the potential for bad.
    I disagree, it's exactly the same. Lpast has admitted to being unable to distinguish the goals and beliefs of one group of Muslims from any other group of Muslims, and this inability has lead him to paint the entire lot with a broad brush. That is the intellectual equivalent of being unable to distinguish between one physical specimen and another.
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    Some people who own homes bordering on wildlife areas often see wild deer on their own property.

    Everyone has a soft spot in their hearts for Bambi and deer in general and so they consider the presence of deer a good thing and even a special event.

    But those with a long history of deer interactions and those with the education to understand the possibnle negative impact of close contact with deer are the ones whose opinions and warnings about deer should be listened to carefully.

    Deer trample and eat flowers and vegetables in backyards and gardens. And deer carry ticks and other parasites that can be deadly to humans.

    So, even though deer are beautiful animals they can be harmful to our health.

    You may not recognize the potential danger of letting Al Jazeera gain greater acceptance in America just like the average homeowner might not be aware of the poitential dangers of allowing wild deer to come onto their land and get close to pets and people.

    But the danger is there whether you recognize it or not.
    So, are there Muslim crossing warning signs where you live? How about a Muslim hunting season? You guys eat a lot of Muslim steaks in your neighborhood?
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    re: O'Reilly: Al Gore's sale to al-Jazeera 'sleazy and disgraceful' [W:152]

    Quote Originally Posted by marsden View Post
    Oh, so you can recognize a non-violent Islamist who is working stealthily to weaken America?

    What gives you such powers of discernment?

    Is this a case of, "it takes one to know one?"

    Damn, you found me out. I hereby declare holy war upon you. Raaaaaaaaaaar.
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