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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS [W:49

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Dodge noted. You can use 100 eye roll smileys and act like a snob all you want. Doesn't mean you have an argument.

    It's not my problem that you want to parade around these forums with clown shoes on. You bore me with your buffoonery.

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    Occupy NY (3 OWS goons threaten to kill sexual assault victim if she talked) Three men threatened to kill 24-year-old Occupy Wall Street protester: cops - NY Daily News
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    Acts of vandalism and dealing drugs are "terrorism"?


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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    No, the banks were the only ones who were supposed to be making a profit. Government is not in the business of profit, and you aren't supposed to make a profit paying your mortgage on time. They were doing what they were supposed to do, and the government let them run wild with it. The fact that people narrow in on the banks because they made money is disingenuous. That's their function. Do they deserve their criticism for payouts to execs who failed? Absolutely. But nothing happens in isolation. It took all 3 failing in their responsibilities to create the perfect storm. If even one of them holds up to their obligation, things would not have spiraled out of control. The fact that OWS only blamed banks shows what a ill informed crap protest that it was. Just like most protests in this country.
    The banks had inside knowledge of bad quality mortgages and organized them in "tranches" to peddle to retirement accounts, etc. Now those mortgages are in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac accounts and we be holdin' da' bag. These are the same mortgages that, if the banks had to carry them on their books at "mark to market", would cause severe contraction of banking. I know that the individuals that initiated the mortgages should have paid. That's a no-brainer. Regulators didn't regulate properly. The bankers multiplied their criminal liability and put the screws to the taxpayers. That's the problem, as I see it. The bankers knew which mortgages were bad because that is their business.

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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS [W:49

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Acts of vandalism and dealing drugs are "terrorism"?
    OWS Tactics Turn Violent with Attempted Cleveland Bridge Bombing - Yahoo! News

    Yes it was one small cell group blah blah blah but they did confess and admitted that their intent was to cause a Civil War. That on top of the fact that OWS original plan was to disrupt the US economy by shutting Wall Street plus their intentions of disrupting west coast docks and cause economic results. Or the fact that it is the intention of OWS as a collective to topple the US economy as an attack on capitalism.

    But let me guess now you will deny that OWS wanted to do any of those things right? So what OWS is just all happy about Capitalism and would never do anything against it right?
    I guess you missed the point of those community libraries, those General Assemblies and their intention of starting a new government by the people and for the people? What exactly was the point of OWS? Was it to continue with the US government intact and just arrest bankers?

    Its funny though you always put out disinformation about OWS, but you cannot hide the fact that those occupiers are clutching their copies of Meme Wars: The Creative Destruction of Neoclassical Economics in their right hands while shoving their left fist up in the air.

    Meme Wars: The Creative Destruction of Neoclassical Economics | Seven Stories Press

    "From the editor and magazine that started and named the Occupy Wall Street movement, Meme Wars lays out the next steps in rethinking and remaking our world with a new economic paradigm. Like Adbusters, the book is image-heavy and full-color throughout, "

    Bwahahaha the hardback version is $75

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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    The Weathermen and ELF alone account for more incidences of domestic terrorism than all the right wing groups put together. Please dont try to disinform.
    Not true as well. You do know there are lists of this stuff on the internet right?

    Fact is the Weathermen have not been around the last 30 years and the ELF so called attacks have never killed or hurt anyone and were only put on the "terror" list after decades of right wing pressure to do so... and it was done by a right wing President and a right wing congress.. go figure!

    If you look at the lists that have been compiled on terror attacks, in the last 20 years by far the most have been from right wing persons/groups or Islamist (also right wing). Have there been a few left wing nutters .. yes but few and far inbetween to say the least.

    From this list

    Terrorist attacks and related incidents in the United States

    you can clearly see that most of the acts or attempted acts of terror the last 20 years have been coming from the right wing.
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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Not true as well. You do know there are lists of this stuff on the internet right?

    Fact is the Weathermen have not been around the last 30 years and the ELF so called attacks have never killed or hurt anyone and were only put on the "terror" list after decades of right wing pressure to do so... and it was done by a right wing President and a right wing congress.. go figure!

    If you look at the lists that have been compiled on terror attacks, in the last 20 years by far the most have been from right wing persons/groups or Islamist (also right wing). Have there been a few left wing nutters .. yes but few and far inbetween to say the least.

    From this list

    Terrorist attacks and related incidents in the United States

    you can clearly see that most of the acts or attempted acts of terror the last 20 years have been coming from the right wing.

    Bolded disarms your credibility. If you cant say things that are remotely credible to arrive at your conclusion, your conclusion has some flaws.

    That list also has more than a few flaws, such as thwarted attacks being unaffiliated.

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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Bolded disarms your credibility. If you cant say things that are remotely credible to arrive at your conclusion, your conclusion has some flaws.

    That list also has more than a few flaws, such as thwarted attacks being unaffiliated.
    First off.. even if you take out the few "mulsim" attacks, the right wing attacks are still dominating.

    Secondly.. are you saying that a bunch of people who are religious zealots that want everyone to live in the 1400s under a conservative rule are not right wing? It is you guys in the GOP that invited the radical religious christian right in and they have many of the same beliefs.. you own them. The islamist terrorists are certainly not left wing so they must be right.
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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    First off.. even if you take out the few "mulsim" attacks, the right wing attacks are still dominating.

    Secondly.. are you saying that a bunch of people who are religious zealots that want everyone to live in the 1400s under a conservative rule are not right wing? It is you guys in the GOP that invited the radical religious christian right in and they have many of the same beliefs.. you own them. The islamist terrorists are certainly not left wing so they must be right.
    I think you better learn to count better....because I dont think you did count them.

    Islamic terrorists are not right wing in the framework of US political parties, stop trying to compare apples and oranges. Its ludicrous and insulting to my intelligence and it ought to be to yours.

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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    I think you better learn to count better....because I dont think you did count them.

    Islamic terrorists are not right wing in the framework of US political parties, stop trying to compare apples and oranges. Its ludicrous and insulting to my intelligence and it ought to be to yours.
    LOL okay so you moved the bar and bring racism into the framework... /clap.

    Islamic radicals are conservative.. they are right wing. They are no different than the radical right Christians out there.. they believe the same things. And since the US right embraced the radical religious right 30 or so years ago, then they own them pure and simple.

    Islamic radicals are against change, they are against freedom (which conservatives are too when it comes down to things) and want to dominate others.. all aspects of uncontrolled right wing rule. You and your brothers/sisters might want to deny this, but it is a historical fact.

    Lets look at the differences.

    The conservative right is against homosexuals.. so are the Islamist.
    The conservative right is against womens rights.. so are the Islamists.
    The conservative right hates change.. so are do the Islamists.
    The conservative right like to dominate minorities.. so do Islamists.
    The conservative right thinks they are good and rightous because they give to charity and help the "poor".. so do the Islamists.
    The conservative right blames everyone else but themselves for bad things... so do the Islamists.

    The only place where conservatives and Islamists might differ is on economics.. and that is purely because the Islamists dont have many economic ideas..
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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Islamic radicals are conservative.. they are right wing. They are no different than the radical right Christians out there.. they believe the same things. And since the US right embraced the radical religious right 30 or so years ago, then they own them pure and simple.
    How many times in the past 30 years has a radical Christian blown up a bunch of people?

    After you answer that, tell me how many times, in the past 30 years, a radical Islamic has blown up a bunch of people.

    That's the only difference that matters...not any of the other stuff you mentioned. BTW, all that other stuff you mentioned is pure hogwash...pure hyperbolic stereotyping...just plain wrong.
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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    Not in those words, but I hear libertarians on this board and all over arguing that Capitalism when "free" would be bad for big buisiness.
    That does not sound in line with libertarian philosophy.

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