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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS [W:49

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Dodge noted. You can use 100 eye roll smileys and act like a snob all you want. Doesn't mean you have an argument.

    It's not my problem that you want to parade around these forums with clown shoes on. You bore me with your buffoonery.

    Terrorism | Define Terrorism at Dictionary.com



    Arson

    Occupy Fort Collins - 7NEWS - Occupy Protester Arrested In $10M Arson Fire - News Story
    Occupy Denver - Man living at Occupy Portland charged for Molotov cocktail incident - Koinlocal6.com
    Occupy Portland - 3 men claiming to be Occupy Portland protesters arrested in Marion County for possession of explosives | OregonLive.com



    Assaults

    Occupy SF 12 assaults in 1 day - 24 hours at Occupy SF: Camp clashes undermine movement's intent | Mike Aldax | Local | San Francisco Examiner
    Occupy LA - Occupy L.A.: 5 charged with crimes including lewd conduct, battery - latimes.com
    Assaults raise concerns about crime at Occupy L.A. - Los Angeles Times
    Occupy Berzerkely - Is Occupy Berkeley on a Collision Course With Berkeley? (News Analysis). Category: Page One from The Berkeley Daily Planet
    Occupy NY (3 OWS goons threaten to kill sexual assault victim if she talked) Three men threatened to kill 24-year-old Occupy Wall Street protester: cops - NY Daily News
    Occupy Victoria - OWS Protestor dumps urine on a city worker City Worker Allegedly Doused In Urine - YouTube
    Occupy Oakland - Death Threats - Oakland Effect: Occupy Oakland protesters should heed younger voices - San Jose Mercury News

    Drugs

    Occupy Boston (Dealing Crack) Hub to Occupy: Shape up or ship out | Boston Herald



    Drug dealers caught with 6 year old boy - Drug, vandalism arrests at Occupy Boston | Boston Herald



    Occupy Portland (Heroin/Meth) # 2 Occupy Kitchen , Portland Saftey Nov 6,2011 - YouTube
    Open Drug Use at Occupy Portland - YouTube

    Disease Outbreaks

    Occupy Santa Cruz (Ringworm)- Ring Worm Outbreak At Occupy Santa Cruz Camp - YouTube
    Occupy Atlanta (TB) Tuberculosis Breaks Out At Occupy Atlanta’s Base « CBS Atlanta
    Occupy NY (Zuccotti Lung) http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/11/ny...cern.html?_r=0
    Occupy New Orleans (Dead man found in tent. Had been dead 2 days) Man found dead in Occupy New Orleans encampment | NOLA.com

    Public Intimidation

    Occupy Dallas - Occupy Dallas protesters arrested | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth
    Occupy NY Occupy Wall Street Versus JPMogan Chase, Oct 12, 2011 by InnerCityPress.com - YouTube
    Occupy Wall Street: Protesters clash with police in march on JPMorgan Chase bank | Mail Online
    Defecating in the street - Capitol Hill Occupiers Day 10 - YouTube

    Rapes/Sexual Assaults

    Occupy Philly (Rape) Man arrested in Occupy Philly sexual assault | 6abc.com
    Occupy Dallas (Alleged rape of a 14 year old) Man arrested for child sex assault at Occupy Dallas camp | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth
    Occupy NY - New York Post reporter spends night with Occupy Wall Street protesters in Zuccotti Park - NYPOST.com
    Occupy Wall Street Participant Arrested in Sex Assaults at Zuccotti Park - Metropolis - WSJ
    Occupy Toronto (Some clown arrested for sniffing a woman's feet while she slept. Friend of yours?) Occupy Toronto Community Dealing with Issues - YouTube
    Occupy Glasgow (Possible Rape) | The Sun |News
    Occupy Chicago (Child Porn) Man Arrested For Child Porn ‘No Longer Welcome’ At Occupy Chicago « CBS Chicago
    Occupy LA (Man charged with exposing himself to a child) Occupy L.A.: 5 charged with crimes including lewd conduct, battery - latimes.com

    Vandalism

    Occupy Eureka (Crapping in a bank) Eureka Police Accuse Occupiers of Defecation, Assault | Blogthing | North Coast Journal | Humboldt County
    Occupy Portland - Bank branches vandalized in Portland's Hollywood District | OregonLive.com
    Occupy LA - News Vans Allegedly Vandalized at Occupy LA Protests - FishbowlLA
    Occupy Berzerkely (ATMS smeared with feces) Occupy Berkeley: Chase Bank - YouTube!

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    point to the ones that were arrests for acts of terrorism
    or did you intend to post a list of vandalism
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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    Like that libertarianism is bad for big buisiness because competition, markets bla bla bla and so on.
    Examples of "libertarians [saying] that libertarianism is anti-rich "

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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    What OWS failed to grasp is that a bank is not a charity; its a business. Individual people chose to live beyond their means and they chose to be morons and sign documents without reading them. What Goldman Sachs did should be criminal but when individual people walk into a bank and ASK for a loan they can't possibly afford; they deserve whatever they get. Its not the bank's job to hand hold you through fundamental money management or babysit your balance sheet.
    Don't forget the government being complicit in this mess too. From repealing certain regulations to encouraging sub prime loans, they basically asked the banks to give people without the means a loan. So there is a trifecta of blame. Government for being irresponsible with regulations, banks for being irresponsible with their own loan practices, and people for not paying their bills. But hey, lets just blame banks.
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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    Don't forget the government being complicit in this mess too. From repealing certain regulations to encouraging sub prime loans, they basically asked the banks to give people without the means a loan. So there is a trifecta of blame. Government for being irresponsible with regulations, banks for being irresponsible with their own loan practices, and people for not paying their bills. But hey, lets just blame banks.

    I agree with the trifecta of blame analogy. Now one studies the money flows and one party (homeowner) gets stuck with a debt, one gets political capital (gov't) and one gets paid millions of dollars and lots of perks, stock options and bonuses. Ya gets more monies and you gets more blame. Ergo the bankers get the most blame because they made the most, by far, profit.

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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS [W:49

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    point to the ones that were arrests for acts of terrorism
    or did you intend to post a list of vandalism
    Do you even know what the definition of terrorism is?

    Haha couldn't resist. Look if you want a serious response from me you're going to have to write a response beyond the 4th grade level. Public Intimidation, Arson, assaults, all in an effort to coerce people politically is terrorism. OCW meets all of the above criteria. Not my problem you can't accept that because you're a partisan hack.

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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOL yea right... talk about living in a dream world.
    The Weathermen and ELF alone account for more incidences of domestic terrorism than all the right wing groups put together. Please dont try to disinform.

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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    The Weathermen and ELF alone account for more incidences of domestic terrorism than all the right wing groups put together. Please dont try to disinform.
    McVeigh was mostly motivated by The Turner Diaries, which was written by a Neo-Nazi

    The Big Lie propagated these days is that the Nazis were "Right Wing". They were not, in the sense of what is considered "right wing" in modern day American Politics anyways. The truth of the matter is the Nazis were on the right, but on the spectrum of the extreme left wing. They were Collectivists/Socialists but also Nationalists. Right Wing Extreme Leftists is the appropriate characterization.

    Has nothing to do with American Conservatism. Just typical smears by ignorant radical left wingers. The truth is most of the political violence in the US is perpetrated by left wing Collectivist Groups. The Weathermen. ELF. OWS. All of them are radical left wing groups. All Collectivist movements are. Mob movements in general operate with the "crowd mentality" of morals. When people are motivated by the crowd, by the mob, their morals and behaviors change. It's all psychological. That's what makes the left so dangerous. Their ideology is grounded in infantile emotional reasoning. Not rationality and critical thinking.
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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    That's what makes the left so dangerous. Their ideology is grounded in infantile emotional reasoning. Not rationality and critical thinking.
    I think the ideology of the left wing is far more enlightened than that of the right.

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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I agree with the trifecta of blame analogy. Now one studies the money flows and one party (homeowner) gets stuck with a debt, one gets political capital (gov't) and one gets paid millions of dollars and lots of perks, stock options and bonuses. Ya gets more monies and you gets more blame. Ergo the bankers get the most blame because they made the most, by far, profit.
    No, the banks were the only ones who were supposed to be making a profit. Government is not in the business of profit, and you aren't supposed to make a profit paying your mortgage on time. They were doing what they were supposed to do, and the government let them run wild with it. The fact that people narrow in on the banks because they made money is disingenuous. That's their function. Do they deserve their criticism for payouts to execs who failed? Absolutely. But nothing happens in isolation. It took all 3 failing in their responsibilities to create the perfect storm. If even one of them holds up to their obligation, things would not have spiraled out of control. The fact that OWS only blamed banks shows what a ill informed crap protest that it was. Just like most protests in this country.
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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Examples of "libertarians [saying] that libertarianism is anti-rich "
    Not in those words, but I hear libertarians on this board and all over arguing that Capitalism when "free" would be bad for big buisiness.

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