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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    yea protesting against the banks and corporations who have caused 1000 times more "domestic damage" is really a irresponsible act.
    As far as I know, the banks and corporations are following our laws. OWS, when they destroy public property, disrupt and prevent ordinary citizens from going about their personal business, are not following our laws.

    That makes them more of a target for the attention of our Law Enforcement...especially the FBI. And rightly so.

    Do you condone unlawful, destructive and disruptive protests? Would you condone murder in the name of protest?

    Just how far do you think OWS should have gone before the FBI was justified in watching them?
    TANSTAAFL

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    ― Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon

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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS [W:49

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Watch @: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS from Its Earliest Days

    Typical. Any left wing social justice movement is always treated as a "potential terrorist threat" here in the US. Each and every time a left wing movement has gotten steam and became popular in the US its always a "potential threat", civil rights, anti war movement, labor movement. You have the freedom to protest apparently only under the careful watch of the FBI in this country. Big brother at its finest.
    OCW is a domestic terrorist group, especially their most extreme wing, Black Bloc

    The rapes, violence, property destruction, and plans put into place by the group to commit domestic terrorism is the proof

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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's because most of the terrorism that has occured in the United States since the late 19th Century has come from Left wing social justice movements.
    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    LOL yea right... talk about living in a dream world.
    Depends on what you consider left wing that actually may not be inaccurate.

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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS [W:49

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    OCW is a domestic terrorist group, especially their most extreme wing, Black Bloc

    The rapes, violence, property destruction, and plans put into place by the group to commit domestic terrorism is the proof


    Do you even know the definition of "terrorism"?


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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS [W:49

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post


    Do you even know the definition of "terrorism"?
    Dodge noted. You can use 100 eye roll smileys and act like a snob all you want. Doesn't mean you have an argument.

    It's not my problem that you want to parade around these forums with clown shoes on. You bore me with your buffoonery.

    Terrorism | Define Terrorism at Dictionary.com

    the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
    Arson

    Occupy Fort Collins - 7NEWS - Occupy Protester Arrested In $10M Arson Fire - News Story
    Occupy Denver - Man living at Occupy Portland charged for Molotov cocktail incident - Koinlocal6.com
    Occupy Portland - 3 men claiming to be Occupy Portland protesters arrested in Marion County for possession of explosives | OregonLive.com



    Assaults

    Occupy SF 12 assaults in 1 day - 24 hours at Occupy SF: Camp clashes undermine movement's intent | Mike Aldax | Local | San Francisco Examiner
    Occupy LA - Occupy L.A.: 5 charged with crimes including lewd conduct, battery - latimes.com
    Assaults raise concerns about crime at Occupy L.A. - Los Angeles Times
    Occupy Berzerkely - Is Occupy Berkeley on a Collision Course With Berkeley? (News Analysis). Category: Page One from The Berkeley Daily Planet
    Occupy NY (3 OWS goons threaten to kill sexual assault victim if she talked) Three men threatened to kill 24-year-old Occupy Wall Street protester: cops - NY Daily News
    Occupy Victoria - OWS Protestor dumps urine on a city worker City Worker Allegedly Doused In Urine - YouTube
    Occupy Oakland - Death Threats - Oakland Effect: Occupy Oakland protesters should heed younger voices - San Jose Mercury News

    Drugs

    Occupy Boston (Dealing Crack) Hub to Occupy: Shape up or ship out | Boston Herald



    Drug dealers caught with 6 year old boy - Drug, vandalism arrests at Occupy Boston | Boston Herald

    The 6-year-old child who was living with them in a tent is now staying with family members, police said.
    Occupy Portland (Heroin/Meth) # 2 Occupy Kitchen , Portland Saftey Nov 6,2011 - YouTube
    Open Drug Use at Occupy Portland - YouTube

    Disease Outbreaks

    Occupy Santa Cruz (Ringworm)- Ring Worm Outbreak At Occupy Santa Cruz Camp - YouTube
    Occupy Atlanta (TB) Tuberculosis Breaks Out At Occupy Atlanta’s Base « CBS Atlanta
    Occupy NY (Zuccotti Lung) http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/11/ny...cern.html?_r=0
    Occupy New Orleans (Dead man found in tent. Had been dead 2 days) Man found dead in Occupy New Orleans encampment | NOLA.com

    Public Intimidation

    Occupy Dallas - Occupy Dallas protesters arrested | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth
    Occupy NY Occupy Wall Street Versus JPMogan Chase, Oct 12, 2011 by InnerCityPress.com - YouTube
    Occupy Wall Street: Protesters clash with police in march on JPMorgan Chase bank | Mail Online
    Defecating in the street - Capitol Hill Occupiers Day 10 - YouTube

    Rapes/Sexual Assaults

    Occupy Philly (Rape) Man arrested in Occupy Philly sexual assault | 6abc.com
    Occupy Dallas (Alleged rape of a 14 year old) Man arrested for child sex assault at Occupy Dallas camp | wfaa.com Dallas - Fort Worth
    Occupy NY - New York Post reporter spends night with Occupy Wall Street protesters in Zuccotti Park - NYPOST.com
    Occupy Wall Street Participant Arrested in Sex Assaults at Zuccotti Park - Metropolis - WSJ
    Occupy Toronto (Some clown arrested for sniffing a woman's feet while she slept. Friend of yours?) Occupy Toronto Community Dealing with Issues - YouTube
    Occupy Glasgow (Possible Rape) | The Sun |News
    Occupy Chicago (Child Porn) Man Arrested For Child Porn ‘No Longer Welcome’ At Occupy Chicago « CBS Chicago
    Occupy LA (Man charged with exposing himself to a child) Occupy L.A.: 5 charged with crimes including lewd conduct, battery - latimes.com

    Vandalism

    Occupy Eureka (Crapping in a bank) Eureka Police Accuse Occupiers of Defecation, Assault | Blogthing | North Coast Journal | Humboldt County
    Occupy Portland - Bank branches vandalized in Portland's Hollywood District | OregonLive.com
    Occupy LA - News Vans Allegedly Vandalized at Occupy LA Protests - FishbowlLA
    Occupy Berzerkely (ATMS smeared with feces) Occupy Berkeley: Chase Bank - YouTube!

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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    For example?
    Like that libertarianism is bad for big buisiness because competition, markets bla bla bla and so on.

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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Why do you think there was so much popular support?.
    There wasn't. It was the .0000001% pretending they were the 99%.
    "Loyalty only matters when there's a hundred reasons not to be-" Gen. Mattis

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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    There wasn't. It was the .0000001% pretending they were the 99%.
    I like that statement and it has some truth. On the other hand, the banks crooked operations created the crisis and the OWS stated goals were to bring attention to that. Many scumbags, dopers, miscreants, vagrants, etc. joined the groups to get a free ride, to the detriment of the groups, I might add, and that is not being denied. The groups did not have single point leadership because they would have been arrested, but their technique worked and frustrated the investigating agencies. That would be the FBI. I still think the bankers should be prosecuted foir their illegalities and we are still trying to shift the blame and the discussion to OWS. That is a success story for the bankers and a "bend over, no Ky" to the 99%.

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    Re: The FBI vs. Occupy: Secret Docs Reveal "Counterterrorism" Monitoring of OWS

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    On the other hand, the banks crooked operations created the crisis and the OWS stated goals were to bring attention to that....I still think the bankers should be prosecuted foir their illegalities and we are still trying to shift the blame and the discussion to OWS. That is a success story for the bankers and a "bend over, no Ky" to the 99%.
    What OWS failed to grasp is that a bank is not a charity; its a business. Individual people chose to live beyond their means and they chose to be morons and sign documents without reading them. What Goldman Sachs did should be criminal but when individual people walk into a bank and ASK for a loan they can't possibly afford; they deserve whatever they get. Its not the bank's job to hand hold you through fundamental money management or babysit your balance sheet.

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