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    Re: Washington State Pushes Electric Cars, Then Taxes Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No such obligation exists to begin with.
    if not those who drive on the roads, who should be responsible for the costs of road building and maintenance
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    Re: Washington State Pushes Electric Cars, Then Taxes Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I would say it is the tax payer that is damned if they do damned if they don't.
    Don't buy an electric car and you don't have to worry about it.
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    Re: Washington State Pushes Electric Cars, Then Taxes Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I believe offering you a 1000 buck tax break without at the same time informing the buyer he will be taxed a 100 bucks a year is deceitful and is typical socialism, give with one hand while taking with the other.
    Yeah, but you believe everything is socialism.
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    Re: Washington State Pushes Electric Cars, Then Taxes Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if not those who drive on the roads, who should be responsible for the costs of road building and maintenance
    There is no reason to assume there is an obligation to pay for something you never asked for nor is there any reason to assume taxing someone for future use which may not occur is justified. Just like there is no logic behind taxing someone a fixed rate using the argument that they must pay for what they use when you are not taking into account the amount of use in question. A fee of a $100 dollars is a joke and in no way shape or form supports their argument that one must pay for what they use. In order to support their argument that one must pay for what they use they would have charge people on the spot or otherwise they are either just using a fixed rate which doesn't match reality or if they are doing it after the fact they would have to guess where the use took place.
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    Re: Washington State Pushes Electric Cars, Then Taxes Owners

    The gas tax is a usage tax, i.e. the more you drive on the roads and contribute to wear and tear, the more tax you pay toward their upkeep. For those that rarely drive, or perhaps have multiple cars (and only drive one at a time), a gas tax makes a lot of sense.... but a flat rate tax does not.

    How many of these electric vehicles were second vehicles in the household, or perhaps purchased by the elderly who rarely drive?
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    Re: Washington State Pushes Electric Cars, Then Taxes Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if not those who drive on the roads, who should be responsible for the costs of road building and maintenance
    Pedestrians...bicycle riders...everyone...right? Perhaps they should eliminate the gas tax and tax every citizen on their annual tax returns for road and sidewalk maintenance.

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    Re: Washington State Pushes Electric Cars, Then Taxes Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Pedestrians...bicycle riders...everyone...right? Perhaps they should eliminate the gas tax and tax every citizen on their annual tax returns for road and sidewalk maintenance.
    explain for us why electric vehicle owners should be exempt from participating in the payment of road use taxes
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    Re: Washington State Pushes Electric Cars, Then Taxes Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    explain for us why electric vehicle owners should be exempt from participating in the payment of road use taxes
    Explain why pedestrians shouldnt. Bike riders. Im on your side, man...I say tax the **** out of all of them. No problem. The state taxed them during the sale, and taxes them during vehicle registration, and taxes them for the electricity to charge them...but hey...since they cant hit em with a commodities tax they WILL find another way. Tax em all...Bubba. Never let the opportunity to slip in a new tax go to waste.

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    Re: Washington State Pushes Electric Cars, Then Taxes Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Explain why pedestrians shouldnt. Bike riders. Im on your side, man...I say tax the **** out of all of them. No problem. The state taxed them during the sale, and taxes them during vehicle registration, and taxes them for the electricity to charge them...but hey...since they cant hit em with a commodities tax they WILL find another way. Tax em all...Bubba. Never let the opportunity to slip in a new tax go to waste.
    good. i'm glad we agree
    owners of electric autos should incur a road use tax
    and the OP's lament is unjustified
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: Washington State Pushes Electric Cars, Then Taxes Owners

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    good. i'm glad we agree
    owners of electric autos should incur a road use tax
    and the OP's lament is unjustified
    Not just the electric car users, though...right? Bike riders...pedestrians...and people that use public transportation. EVERYONE...right?
    And they ARE getting taxed. They are taxed for the electricity to charge their cars. Funny you keep ignoring that as well.

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