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    Re: Journalists’ Addresses Posted In Revenge For Newspaper’s Google Map Of Gun Permit

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Funny how when someone uses his or her firearm to prevent or stop a crime the media either ignores such stories or give them only a token mention. The media doesn't plaster the hero's name and photo all over the news. The media doesn't ponder why that person used his firearm to stop or prevent a crime.The media doesn't mention what weapon he or she used to stop those criminals.The media doesn't mention that magazine capacity of that person's weapon. The media doesn't care what hobbies that person has. They media doesn't interview the people he or she saved to ask stupid questions like "are you glad he saved you" or "how are you felling". The doesn't give a soap box to every 2nd amendment advocate saying we need to encourage more firearm ownership or that we need to repeal anti-2nd amendment laws, nor do reporters pondering those questions. If the media isn't working with anti-2ndamendment loons then it must be one hell of a coincidence. Because when someone murders a bunch of people in a mass shooting the media behaves the exact opposite.
    What does this have to do with the post you quoted?

    Also, have you considered that mass shootings get more ratings? That mass shootings anger and motivate people in ways stopping an armed robber in one's home may not?

    Maybe it's more likely the "anti-2nd amendment movement" is a shadowy cabal of which "the media," whole and undivided, is just a wing of.

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    Re: Journalists’ Addresses Posted In Revenge For Newspaper’s Google Map Of Gun Permit

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    What does this have to do with the post you quoted?

    Also, have you considered that mass shootings get more ratings? That mass shootings anger and motivate people in ways stopping an armed robber in one's home may not?

    Maybe it's more likely the "anti-2nd amendment movement" is a shadowy cabal of which "the media," whole and undivided, is just a wing of.
    The purpose of the press is to publish the W's; Who, What, When, Where, Why, and "What's it mean". This does not mean that the press should have a preference of those W's, IOW ethical journalism presents both sides in a fair manner, the press are information distributors only. Choosing to publish the mass murders and I'm sorry, these are local impact events no matter how disgusting they are while ignoring someone stopping violence is biased, they get to set the message so they have a serious ethical standard. Not publishing defensive use, while publishing offensive misuse, and then calling out people who have done neither but have a permit(this is creating news BTW, big NO-NO) shows where the priorities are in media, and it's disturbing.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Journalists’ Addresses Posted In Revenge For Newspaper’s Google Map Of Gun Permit

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I disagree. some gun hungry robber might well target say a single woman with a gun permit
    Interesting logic you guys have here.

    First of all, you have the theory that greater gun ownership would reduce crime, suggesting that criminals are deterred when they think the person they are robbing/etc. is a gun owner.

    On the other hand, in this scenario, you think these people are more likely to become victims because they are gun owners.

    By making this point, you are also suggesting that it is attractive for criminals to arm themselves by robbing legal gun owners -- suggesting that it is difficult to get their hands on guns in easier ways than through crime.

    But if that last point is true, it would seem that banning guns would be a good way to stop them from falling into the hands of criminals...

    You guys are certainly talking yourselves in circles, aren't you?
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    Re: Journalists’ Addresses Posted In Revenge For Newspaper’s Google Map Of Gun Permit

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    Interesting logic you guys have here.

    First of all, you have the theory that greater gun ownership would reduce crime, suggesting that criminals are deterred when they think the person they are robbing/etc. is a gun owner.

    On the other hand, in this scenario, you think these people are more likely to become victims because they are gun owners.

    By making this point, you are also suggesting that it is attractive for criminals to arm themselves by robbing legal gun owners -- suggesting that it is difficult to get their hands on guns in easier ways than through crime.

    But if that last point is true, it would seem that banning guns would be a good way to stop them from falling into the hands of criminals...

    You guys are certainly talking yourselves in circles, aren't you?
    no, and if you understood the topic you'd understand why there is no contradiction but I don't have time to explain it to you

    I will later tonight and its obvious

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    Re: Journalists’ Addresses Posted In Revenge For Newspaper’s Google Map Of Gun Permit

    Quote Originally Posted by Juiposa View Post
    Responding to childish bull by partaking in childish bull. Instead of being the better person, right?

    And its not like the gun permit owners were at any risk, other than having their privacy violated; the staff of the Journal ARE at risk to having direct revenge taken upon them. Good idea in jeopardising the safety of tonnes of people many people are apparently angry with.

    The man who posted this information is as much and idiot at deserves are much scrutiny as those that posted the gun-permit owners' information.
    Are you seriously deriding Fountain for responding in kind? That sounds a lot like the argument that Christians should "turn the other cheek" while their detractors continue to take shots at them. The risk to the gun owners comes from the deluded antis who would either look to disarm them or worse. They (gun owners) did not put themselves in the public eye the way the journalists did. But I will agree with your last statement. Further, if some anti-gun plebe gets shot harassing one of these gun owners I think it should be on the Journal writer's hands.

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    Re: Journalists’ Addresses Posted In Revenge For Newspaper’s Google Map Of Gun Permit

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    The purpose of the press is to publish the W's; Who, What, When, Where, Why, and "What's it mean". This does not mean that the press should have a preference of those W's, IOW ethical journalism presents both sides in a fair manner, the press are information distributors only. Choosing to publish the mass murders and I'm sorry, these are local impact events no matter how disgusting they are while ignoring someone stopping violence is biased, they get to set the message so they have a serious ethical standard. Not publishing defensive use, while publishing offensive misuse, and then calling out people who have done neither but have a permit(this is creating news BTW, big NO-NO) shows where the priorities are in media, and it's disturbing.
    Ok so everyone has an opinion on how the media should report things, its important to remember there is no "the media" that all reports and acts the same way. So whats your point? Going back to the original topic, does wanting the media to report differently justify endangering some of their members?

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    Re: Journalists’ Addresses Posted In Revenge For Newspaper’s Google Map Of Gun Permit

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Ok so everyone has an opinion on how the media should report things, its important to remember there is no "the media" that all reports and acts the same way. So whats your point? Going back to the original topic, does wanting the media to report differently justify endangering some of their members?
    It's not opinion, there's actually an industry standard.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Journalists’ Addresses Posted In Revenge For Newspaper’s Google Map Of Gun Permit

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    It's not opinion, there's actually an industry standard.
    So whats your point? Journalism isn't what it should be? Sure I agree with that.

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    Re: Journalists’ Addresses Posted In Revenge For Newspaper’s Google Map Of Gun Permit

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    You're missing a key word from your quotation of me, I did not use the word intentionally while you did. I'm not convinced that putting people in danger was their intent, although I do agree that did happen.
    Ahhhhhh...you think they were totally benign and innocent and too stupid to realize what you and apparently everyone else knows. Gotcha.

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    Re: Journalists’ Addresses Posted In Revenge For Newspaper’s Google Map Of Gun Permit

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    So whats your point? Journalism isn't what it should be? Sure I agree with that.
    But no one is demanding that they live up o their standards.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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