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    Re: Mosque arsonist tells court: ‘I only know what I hear on Fox News’

    Don't blame Fox. The 52 year old has much left to be desired.

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    Re: Mosque arsonist tells court: ‘I only know what I hear on Fox News’

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    I meant people like the individual in question rather then fox per say.
    Well, people like that are morons...
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    Re: Mosque arsonist tells court: ‘I only know what I hear on Fox News’

    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy Creek View Post
    No, it's not the first time FOX has been shown to rile up people to violence.
    People need to take responsibility for their own actions, and be held accountable. Fox News isn't anything like what the M$M will do. Remember the LA Riots?

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    Re: Mosque arsonist tells court: ‘I only know what I hear on Fox News’

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    People need to take responsibility for their own actions, and be held accountable. Fox News isn't anything like what the M$M will do. Remember the LA Riots?
    The Science of Fox News: Why Its Viewers are the Most Misinformed | Alternet


    . . .

    There probably is a small group of media consumers out there somewhere in the world who are more misinformed, overall, than Fox News viewers. But if you only consider mainstream U.S. television news outlets with major audiences (e.g., numbering in the millions), it really is true that Fox viewers are the most misled based on all the available evidence—especially in areas of political controversy. This will come as little surprise to liberals, perhaps, but the evidence for it—evidence in Stewart’s favor—is pretty overwhelming.

    My goal here is to explore the underlying causes for this “Fox News effect”—explaining how this station has brought about a hurricane-like intensification of factual error, misinformation and unsupportable but ideologically charged beliefs on the conservative side of the aisle. First, though, let’s begin by surveying the evidence about how misinformed Fox viewers actually are.

    Based upon my research, I have located seven separate studies that support Stewart’s claim about Fox, and none that undermine it. Six of these studies were available at the time that PolitFact took on Stewart; one of them is newer.

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    Most misinformed. Try being well read and having an honest discussion with them about the issues.
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    Re: Mosque arsonist tells court: ‘I only know what I hear on Fox News’

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    Maybe this just isn't the right country for Muslims.
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    Re: Mosque arsonist tells court: ‘I only know what I hear on Fox News’

    Okay, far be it for me to stop this typical Fox bash fest but I feel it's only reasonable to interject a bit of common sense on this....

    People who are seeking to get off on a crime and/or are trying to get their sentence reduced often attempt to scape goat things. That doesn't mean the scape goat is correct. Somehow when someone blamed Marilyn Manson as a reason they tried to shoot up a school I don't imagine many of those going "SEE! FOX IS BAD!" would be proclaiming the person is being completely honest nad forthright regarding their motivations. Pretty much every argument used to suggest that Video Games or Movies don't cause people to shoot up a place...such as pointing out to the hundreds of thousand law abiding individuals enjoying those things...apply here as well.

    A guy took horrible action, on his own volition or potentially spurred by his lawyer he's placed the blame for his actions on something else, and naturally all those who dislike that [something else] leap to the chance to ridicule, attack, and degrade it in a fashion akin to a mindless zombie horde without giving it three seconds of rational thought. It's laughable someone responds to James's spot on reference to blaming Video Games and The Devil by stating that "it's happened before with Fox"....as if the cop out excuses James stated are never claimed.

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    Re: Mosque arsonist tells court: ‘I only know what I hear on Fox News’

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    People need to take responsibility for their own actions, and be held accountable. Fox News isn't anything like what the M$M will do. Remember the LA Riots?
    The LA race riots were the result of the acquittal of the 4 officers who assualted Rodney King. That is fact. not a twisted truth brought upon us by the media.

    This case is the result of a man becoming indoctirinated by falsehoods and rhetoric used by many right-wing groups that would have us assume that all muslims are terrorists and that they are all a threat to us and our country. That is not true as opposed to the assualt on Rodney King.
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    Re: Mosque arsonist tells court: ‘I only know what I hear on Fox News’

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    This case is the result of a man becoming indoctirinated by falsehoods and rhetoric used by many right-wing groups that would have us assume that all muslims are terrorists and that they are all a threat to us and our country. That is not true as opposed to the assualt on Rodney King.
    So your statement is suggeesting that anything an individual accused of a crime states motivated, caused, or inspired his action is 100% accurate, truthful, and honest?

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    Re: Mosque arsonist tells court: ‘I only know what I hear on Fox News’

    Anyone else find it a bit funny that the OP and Muddy Creek are railing about evil FOX, evil Christians, etc, yet they're unbelievably quiet when it comes to their partie's problems?

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    Re: Mosque arsonist tells court: ‘I only know what I hear on Fox News’

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Okay, far be it for me to stop this typical Fox bash fest but I feel it's only reasonable to interject a bit of common sense on this....

    People who are seeking to get off on a crime and/or are trying to get their sentence reduced often attempt to scape goat things. That doesn't mean the scape goat is correct. Somehow when someone blamed Marilyn Manson as a reason they tried to shoot up a school I don't imagine many of those going "SEE! FOX IS BAD!" would be proclaiming the person is being completely honest nad forthright regarding their motivations. Pretty much every argument used to suggest that Video Games or Movies don't cause people to shoot up a place...such as pointing out to the hundreds of thousand law abiding individuals enjoying those things...apply here as well.

    A guy took horrible action, on his own volition or potentially spurred by his lawyer he's placed the blame for his actions on something else, and naturally all those who dislike that [something else] leap to the chance to ridicule, attack, and degrade it in a fashion akin to a mindless zombie horde without giving it three seconds of rational thought. It's laughable someone responds to James's spot on reference to blaming Video Games and The Devil by stating that "it's happened before with Fox"....as if the cop out excuses James stated are never claimed.
    I've always had a problem with the video game reference. These games are rated E through M and many of the most popular are M for mature. This means you have to be 17 to purchase this game. Most of these people who play these games are and can be well below 17 years of age.

    Besides that there is very little proof that video games actually desensitize the average child. Where as Fox News should be famous for their Misinformation. I know several youtube series dedicated to finding and identifying Fox new's bias and falsities. The best one (although no doubt you wont appreciate the name) is Liberalviewer.
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