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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Yes, but who would be there to protect the kids right to illegal search and seizure, or a guard that has a power trip... This is one reason many die hard gun owners use to justify the ownership of firearms. So we don't want to live in a society where the citizens are disarmed and the government is armed, but we are willing to send our children to schools with armed police and no protection. That seems a bit contradictory.
    your posts become more and more silly with that. the bottom line is that no threat of future punishment will deter someone who is intending to die by cop or commit suicide after perpetrating mass murder

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Kinda weird your thinking that kids need protection from their police resource officers. This isn't to say that those cops couldn't illegally search-and-seize or whack out, but can you point to examples that support your concern?
    Police are no different than any other human being. There are an equal number of mentally disturbed, shot tempered, egotistical police officers as there are in any other professional field. Correct? And in some cases, even worse than the normal population due to being desensiitized by what they face on the job daily. That is why we all need guns, to protect ourselves against the government. Is this not the line many gun owners use?
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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Police are no different than any other human being. There are an equal number of mentally disturbed, shot tempered, egotistical police officers as there are in any other professional field. Correct? And in some cases, even worse than the normal population due to being desensiitized by what they face on the job daily. That is why we all need guns, to protect ourselves against the government. Is this not the line many gun owners use?
    that is an interesting claim given you want only cops and robbers to be armed and the rest of us at the mercy of both

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    Who is going to protect the children and adults from the armed guards? I mean, part of the reason people feel we need guns is to protect ourselves from the police and the government. Would protecting against armed guards not be in the same line of thinking.
    lol ok......

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Ok...but its not a few theres thousands and thousands and they are not trained security and teaching is their function not security...a few armed teachers is mostly useless
    How is it useless? I'm sure they can practice and become efficient with a weapon, and that is why I said a select few. Because more than likely, some teachers already know how to use a firearm.

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    How is it useless? I'm sure they can practice and become efficient with a weapon, and that is why I said a select few. Because more than likely, some teachers already know how to use a firearm.
    yeah my favorite teacher was an interesting fellow-he was reputed to be gay (maybe, I heard he later killed himself when someone "outed him") an intellectual (first in his class at Colorado College) a partier (drank his way out of Cornell) and a serious badass (army ranger). when I was on my way of becoming a world class shooter, he used to give me lots of advice on shooting. and when I got in the last fist fight (actually more a foot fight since i was pretty adept at TKD) he chewed me out for bad form even though I put a bully in the ER room. If someone came into our school with a gun this guy probably would have killed the shooter with a bic pen.

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    I'd scoff except that I actually once knew someone who could do just that--kill someone with a Bic pen, I mean. Sixth degree blackbelt at 18.

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

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    yeah my favorite teacher was an interesting fellow-he was reputed to be gay (maybe, I heard he later killed himself when someone "outed him") an intellectual (first in his class at Colorado College) a partier (drank his way out of Cornell) and a serious badass (army ranger). when I was on my way of becoming a world class shooter, he used to give me lots of advice on shooting. and when I got in the last fist fight (actually more a foot fight since i was pretty adept at TKD) he chewed me out for bad form even though I put a bully in the ER room. If someone came into our school with a gun this guy probably would have killed the shooter with a bic pen.
    I'm sure there are plenty of teachers who are ex-military, who are hunters, or whatever and are already proficient in the use of a firearm.

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm sure there are plenty of teachers who are ex-military, who are hunters, or whatever and are already proficient in the use of a firearm.
    lots though I think private schools tend to have more such people than the more regimented public schools.

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

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    lots though I think private schools tend to have more such people than the more regimented public schools.
    I wouldn't know. Public school kid here.

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