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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Ok...but its not a few theres thousands and thousands and they are not trained security and teaching is their function not security...a few armed teachers is mostly useless
    a few armed and TRAINED teachers in each school is far better a solution than the "ban the guns" nonsense that the anti gun politicians propose for reasons that HAVE NOTHING to do with the safety of school kids

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    I love it when the hard right spends most the year castigating teachers as commies, panderers, lazy, socialists, who only want to subvert the bedrock principles our nation was founded on....

    NOW suddenly these very same commies are going to strap-on, train-up and become armed guards as well as educators...

    Doesn't make sense.

    Now having a truly trained and armed presence dedicated to defending a school sounds good.

    But it is alot like placing a soldier every 50 meters, out in the open with nothing between him and the 99th Mongolian Horde. They would dig in, build overhead cover, put out barbed wire and mines... harden their position.

    Schools must be hardened, entries controlled, windows and vents designed to not allow them to be breached from the outside and sensors to monitor if someone tampers with them. CCTV on the outside like Walmart, and hall cameras so the administration can inform help where the badguys are.

    The first indication a bad guy is present shouldn't be children and teachers being shot, it should be an attempt to breach the outer perimeter. School security shouldn't be playing catch-up surprised and blind.

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    a few armed and TRAINED teachers in each school is far better a solution than the "ban the guns" nonsense that the anti gun politicians propose for reasons that HAVE NOTHING to do with the safety of school kids
    Where have I said that banning guns would work ? all ive said is the opposite. There is too many problems trying to arm a few teachers, for one thing it wont work, who chooses which teachers can carry who cant, so along with educational training they now need police training commission training to be able to carry and classroom. You need security and you need cameras and someone watching the cameras from the minute the school is unlocked till the building is secured at night

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I thought that the locale in which Hasan opened fire did not allow weapons.
    I'm thinking that there's probably a few weapons lying around a military base...just a hunch.

    Can the city force the military to give up their weapons? That seems pretty idiotic to me.


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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Where have I said that banning guns would work ? all ive said is the opposite. There is too many problems trying to arm a few teachers, for one thing it wont work, who chooses which teachers can carry who cant, so along with educational training they now need police training commission training to be able to carry and classroom. You need security and you need cameras and someone watching the cameras from the minute the school is unlocked till the building is secured at night

    Training teachers to be armed security guards is like training the security guard to teach.


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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what does suicide have to do with it? and get rid of black drug murders and what is the rate?
    get rid of those things and you still have a cinema full of people that didnt get to see the end of Batman and 20 kids that nvr opened xmas pressies not to mention a few others this year in the US.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    get rid of those things and you still have a cinema full of people that didnt get to see the end of Batman and 20 kids that nvr opened xmas pressies not to mention a few others this year in the US.
    get rid of cancer and no one dies from it

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    get rid of cancer and no one dies from it

    mate scraping the barrel! If we could get rid of cancer we would so not sure how your comment works in that argument.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Training teachers to be armed security guards is like training the security guard to teach.

    There ya go, two totally different professions that should not be mixed. Keeping school safe is going to be expensive and we have to give up some freedom of movement and I said that from my first post

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    get rid of cancer and no one dies from it
    They've been working on a cure for cancer. It's not like you suddenly thought of it.


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