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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Armed guards are a great idea, IMO. Far better to have a few well trained people with weapons than to have everybody carrying a gun.

    If you think armed teachers are the solution, I point this out: Ft. Hood is a military base. It's not like the shooter was the only guy with a weapon there.
    actually the people he attacked were not allowed to have guns the base was a like a city with no CCW-the only people armed were the small number of MPs and perimeter guards

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    moronic response-gun purchases have gone through the roof and crime is down.

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    There was an armed guard at Colorado school, and still people were killed.
    he apparently delayed the killers-the problem is the police waited and waited and waited

    it was like 9-11, a new situation where the LE response was outdated.

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    I'm talking about Arora, not Columbine.
    it was a gun free zone created by dem politicians

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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I agree and I would agree if a liberal politician or a teaparty politician or group said the same thing.

    It is impossible to keep all schools and all kids safe from nutjobs, cant be done. We as society can only minimize it and to do that we have to give up some liberty and do some things many find distasteful, but the end result if it keeps kids even a little safer that it may be worth it. The risk and cost vs results has to be decided.

    Some ideas off the top of my head, all doors locked into the school once the kids are inside. Entrance and exit from one door only with an armed guard with metal detectors or at the minimum paddles. All personel, students, parents an ups delivery men and women all get paddled. Windows either barred or the safety glass that has wire mesh in the middle if you shoot it out you still cant get in. Bullet proof glass would cost hugely.
    Anyone that believes a ban on assault weapons is going to stope school shootings is as off as the nutjobs that commit those horrific crimes.
    Someone armed with a revolver with speed loaders can kill a whole bunch of people in a school before he was stopped. There are people that can speed load revolvers as fast as you can drop a clip and throw in a new one.
    Security in every school is the only way to minimize this slaughter...arming teachers that are in individual classrooms is only good in that room...you need armed security that moves everywhere, the bigger the school the more security. America either has to PAY to keep the kids safe and make some distasteful decisions...or keep pissing up a rope whining about gun control that wont work.
    Where I disagree is putting working Police Officers in every school...You can hire retired police officers and have them supervise and train a staff if needed for far less of a cost.

    The National Rifle Association stunned Washington observers Friday when the groupís CEO announced a plan to install armed guards at every school in the country ó its response to the Connecticut shooting last week that left 20 children dead.
    I saw the NRA's responce to this shooting, blaming it on movies, and video games, and other horsecrap, and realized, thank god I NEVER once gave them turkeys one dime. What a bunch of pussified twits. EVERY SINGLE one of these shooters have something in common. They were on pycotropic medication or were coming off it. Pycotropic medication is nothing to fool around with. Tells me EVERYTHING I need to know. I cant believe I am saying this but that fat moron Micheal Moore is right, we need to investigate the drugs these people have been on. The only good suggestion they had was the security aspect. Most everything else they said was bunk. Theres only ONE organiztion defending my second amendment rights and that the GOA. I am writing a check today to them.
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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    actually the people he attacked were not allowed to have guns the base was a like a city with no CCW-the only people armed were the small number of MPs and perimeter guards
    There we're still armed guards. Where were they? I'm sure most bases have a plan in place in case it comes under attack. Concealed carry usually only applies in public places. A base is the property of the military, they can make their own rules about their own property, IMO.


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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    it was a gun free zone created by dem politicians
    It was a gun free zone created by theater owners excercising their property rights, and by a business in a free market.

    It's amazing how the right loves to throw property rights and free market forces under the bus when it comes to guns.


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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Therefore the only logical solution is to get rid of the people.


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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Armed guards are a great idea, IMO. Far better to have a few well trained people with weapons than to have everybody carrying a gun.

    If you think armed teachers are the solution, I point this out: Ft. Hood is a military base. It's not like the shooter was the only guy with a weapon there.
    Where he committed mass murder, yes, actually, he was.
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    Re: NRA's Newtown solution: Armed guards in schools

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    I agree and I would agree if a liberal politician or a teaparty politician or group said the same thing.

    It is impossible to keep all schools and all kids safe from nutjobs, cant be done. We as society can only minimize it and to do that we have to give up some liberty and do some things many find distasteful, but the end result if it keeps kids even a little safer that it may be worth it. The risk and cost vs results has to be decided.

    Some ideas off the top of my head, all doors locked into the school once the kids are inside. Entrance and exit from one door only with an armed guard with metal detectors or at the minimum paddles. All personel, students, parents an ups delivery men and women all get paddled. Windows either barred or the safety glass that has wire mesh in the middle if you shoot it out you still cant get in. Bullet proof glass would cost hugely.
    Anyone that believes a ban on assault weapons is going to stope school shootings is as off as the nutjobs that commit those horrific crimes.
    Someone armed with a revolver with speed loaders can kill a whole bunch of people in a school before he was stopped. There are people that can speed load revolvers as fast as you can drop a clip and throw in a new one.
    Security in every school is the only way to minimize this slaughter...arming teachers that are in individual classrooms is only good in that room...you need armed security that moves everywhere, the bigger the school the more security. America either has to PAY to keep the kids safe and make some distasteful decisions...or keep pissing up a rope whining about gun control that wont work.
    Where I disagree is putting working Police Officers in every school...You can hire retired police officers and have them supervise and train a staff if needed for far less of a cost.

    The National Rifle Association stunned Washington observers Friday when the group’s CEO announced a plan to install armed guards at every school in the country — its response to the Connecticut shooting last week that left 20 children dead.

    I agree that security needs to be improved and armed. IMHO having teachers with concealed carry permits in the classroom and around schools is a bad idea. School districts need to forge relationships with local police so both can collaboratively fund school police salaries and equipment.

    One problem with school security is that many school buildings are outdated and campuses are too open. Have security at all entrances and stop vehicles without parking decals visible to security. Exits should be effectively designed for traffic to go out only; try to enter and your tires blow out. Similar to military base entrance/exit security. This will help prevent violence from external sources.

    To prevent internal sources of violence have school police as well as unarmed security like mall security to patrol hallways and perimeter. Have school violence prevention hot lines set up and train counselors in intervention methods to identify and respond to possible threats with school administration, security, police, et al.

    Continually refine and practice lock down and response procedures for acts of violence. This needs to be done bi-monthly, and twice during the first two weeks of school.

    As we have recently seen, no school is too small or too remote to implement and continually practice safety procedures that will save lives.
    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Generalizations are stupid.
    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Steel View Post
    The Second Amendment has nothing to do with guns.

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