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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Really. We're going to have a discussion about my post??

    If you think an 11-year-old who brings a gun to school is right, that's on you. I think it's wrong. If you think parents are right to have guns readily accessible to their 11-year-olds so they can take them to school, that's on you too. If you think an 11-year-old is mature enough to be some kind of a guardian to his fellow students by using his gun? Well, post that up and that'll be the second dumbest post I've read on DP.
    Again, gotta defend it as much as possible. No holes or exceptions allowed. Not your his.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    IS this the way we want children to think or believe?
    If you're talking about kids being made aware that the time may come when they have to be responsible for their safety or that of another person then you're doggone right we want them to think that way.

    But somehow or other I don't get the impression that's what you meant.

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Kudos to his mom and pop for bringing up a smart kid. Kid is worthy of an applause or imitation
    That is really sick. Just plain sick. So parents should encourage this behavior and see their kids go to Juve hall or worse? Yez

    The kid should be left alone andd the parents put in jail unfortunately being stupid and delusional is not yet a crime
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    no, it was really dumb/ignorant on his and his parents part. And you want an applause him now for having a record. I thought conservatives where all about law.
    Perhaps its just the laws that they agree with
    Exactly. WHy do gunnies take guns into areas which have legally posted no gun signs? Ego Arrogance or are they of the belief that they only have to obey laws they agree with. Sounds like another group I can name who the gunnies say they are protecting us from.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    I've posted enough that I'll assume you are aware that a) I don't own a gun because I don't trust me b) I have a non-lethal weapon in multiple locations around my house c) I'm not "anti-gun.

    That being reiterated, I want to ask what purpose guns have if you have to keep them locked up? Surely, in the middle of a home invasion, you're not going to run to the gun safe, enter 27 left 24 right 14 left flip the handle, open remove from rack, aim and fire. You're going to want the gun(s) highly accessible, loaded and ready to go. But once you arrange that, any body else can easily take them. A thief, a visitor, your grandkid Charlie etc.

    So, how do you handle this? Inquiring minds etc.......
    Forget the gun and use the weapons around your house that can do damage or kill if they are needed for true defense. take a home defense course. Keep the gun lock so its ready to take to the range. Maybe not the answer your looking for but its one
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    So, now my question becomes "how many here use biometric controls as your main form of gun security?"
    Probably costs a pretty penny too.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    11-12 year old boy knows that he cannot take a weapon to school
    only exception is if he arrived on a short bus
    Another uninformed post. SHort bus? Really. ......................
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    I just really hope this wasn't some gun-nut couple who decided to use this opportunity and their 11 year old son to challenge school gun restrictions. It's not going to work out for them.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Apparently my question is misunderstood. I don't have, don't need, don't want a gun. I'm extremely well defended and have iron bars, gates and a mish-mash of weapons that aren't guns. I'm over-protected.

    My question was addressed to gun owners. After all the defense of guns, all the criticism of the terrible events etc. I want to know if guns are locked away (useless for defense) or readily available (subject to theft or misuse). The suggestion was made of biometric safety locks so I asked if anybody actually used these (seems like the only safe approach to have a gun handy).

    I expected multiple replies but all I got so far is your telling me how to handle MY security. That's not the subject.

    My question to all gun owners still stands.





    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    Forget the gun and use the weapons around your house that can do damage or kill if they are needed for true defense. take a home defense course. Keep the gun lock so its ready to take to the range. Maybe not the answer your looking for but its one
    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    Probably costs a pretty penny too.

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    Probably costs a pretty penny too.
    A quick search yields five models right at $200. Here's one on sale



    As for what solution I use - none. I don't keep a firearm.

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