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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Let's not be too quick to indict all gun owners because these parents were lax. And we don't know the rest of the story yet. I agree, a kid his age shouldn't have access to a gun without meaningful supervision.
    The real question is why did he think it was ok and why did he think it would make everyone safe. thats the crime around the crime.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I can visualize it happening no matter the age of the user. A child his age however can very well understand gun safety and practice it accordingly.
    A child who's been taught to respect guns and knows how to handle them doesn't sneak one out of the house to take it to school.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'm not indicting all gun owners. I'm a gun owner. But I sure as **** know better than to leave it around where a sixth-grader can get his hands on it. I don't have any kids. Don't have many kid visitors. But even when I have strangers in my house (repair people and the like), my gun is out of their reach even if they're LOOKING for it. Really. How stupid can people be?

    Kid takes his mothers guns and shoots 26 people. Other families with guns and youngsters in the house don't change a thing in their house. Unbelievable.
    YOu do not really want to know how stupid people can be do you? Read the Darwin report. (no not evolution)P
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I can visualize it happening no matter the age of the user. A child his age however can very well understand gun safety and practice it accordingly.
    But he doesnt know when and where to use his "gun safety and practice". That should be taught first.

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Oh, Jesus Christ. I'm making the assumption he got this gun from home. If a gun is available to a sixth-grader, the gun owner ought to be in jail. What the **** is wrong with people??

    His logic stunk.
    The logic stunk beginning to end.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    That he had a right to do it and it was ok because it would make his school and friends safer. NOT.
    We don't know that at all. It adds a whole 'nother element of wrong if his parents (and/or the gun owner) thought it was okay for an obviously untrained kid to take the weapon to school. Let's not go into the ridiculous with this, at least until we've heard a bit more of the story.

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    The real question is why did he think it was ok and why did he think it would make everyone safe. thats the crime around the crime.
    That's his purported excuse for bringing the gun to school and mugging around with it. We don't know how sincere or true the excuse is. We don't know who the gun belongs to or how the kid got his hands on it. Making suppositions without actual data.

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    The real question is why did he think it was ok and why did he think it would make everyone safe. thats the crime around the crime.
    What happened in the mall shooting when he came across someone with a gun? Did he happen to kill himself? What do you think happened as a result because that person had a gun? Did the shooting stop?

    The general rule according to the statistics that in areas with guns people are safer than areas without. If the child could handle the gun safety and is trained to use the gun he could very well defuse a situation. I'm not saying kids should handle such a task, or that we should expect such a thing, but at his age he is capable of doing such a task.

    A good example of the general rule is house burglaries. In the US 18% of burglaries happen when someone is home while in Europe where guns are banned 60% happen when people are home.

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I'm not saying kids should handle such a task, or that we should expect such a thing, but at his age he is capable of doing such a task.
    That's probably the most ridiculous post I've ever read on Debate Politics.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    But he doesnt know when and where to use his "gun safety and practice". That should be taught first.
    I don't see how that makes sense. It wouldn't make a difference where the child is if he is able to handle the gun safely. Why do you think rules that are outside of gun safety have anything to do with it?

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