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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    11 years old is certainly old enough to be familiar, and possibly quite proficient, with a .22 pistol or revolver. I get the impression from the article that the kid didn't consult with his parents on his decision and that isn't good but charging the parents with child endangerment based on nothing other than the fact that the kid had a gun in school is ridiculous.

    It was a bad decision on the kids part but the logic of it is fine and dandy.
    Oh, Jesus Christ. I'm making the assumption he got this gun from home. If a gun is available to a sixth-grader, the gun owner ought to be in jail. What the **** is wrong with people??

    His logic stunk.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    His father and/or mother should be thrown in jail. There is absolutely no freakin' WAY!!! a kid his age should have access to a gun. What's the matter with gun owners?? WTH are they thinking???
    Seriously. I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong with the kid. He's reacting to the news. But what the hell is wrong with the parents for letting this gun be accessible to the child? I mean the CT tragedy occurred when a boy took guns from his parent (who failed) to secure them. The FIRST thing people should have done after seeing the tragedy on the news is check on their guns and make sure they're locked up and/or well-hidden.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Oh, Jesus Christ. I'm making the assumption he got this gun from home. If a gun is available to a sixth-grader, the gun owner ought to be in jail. What the **** is wrong with people??

    His logic stunk.
    I don't know where in Utah this kid lives but in many parts of the west it isn't at all unusual for 11 year olds to be out hunting with their parents. Many people make it a point to teach their kids about gun safety and proper handling at a young age.

    We didn't get a whole lot of information from the article so it's pretty damned rash to start passing judgement on the kid and his parents.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    His father and/or mother should be thrown in jail. There is absolutely no freakin' WAY!!! a kid his age should have access to a gun. What's the matter with gun owners?? WTH are they thinking???
    If someone owned a dog, and made sweet love to it, married it etc. would you also say "What's the matter with dog/pet owners?? WTH are they thinking???"

    My point here is why group ALL gun owners with a single event. It does not make sense.

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'm not indicting all gun owners. I'm a gun owner. But I sure as **** know better than to leave it around where a sixth-grader can get his hands on it. I don't have any kids. Don't have many kid visitors. But even when I have strangers in my house (repair people and the like), my gun is out of their reach even if they're LOOKING for it. Really. How stupid can people be?

    Kid takes his mothers guns and shoots 26 people. Other families with guns and youngsters in the house don't change a thing in their house. Unbelievable.
    And you know I agree with that Maggie, gun safety is paramount. It was this comment I was reacting to:

    What's the matter with gun owners??

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by hawke812 View Post
    If someone owned a dog, and made sweet love to it, married it etc. would you also say "What's the matter with dog/pet owners?? WTH are they thinking???"

    My point here is why group ALL gun owners with a single event. It does not make sense.
    Oh for cryin' out loud. Parse my words, why don't you? I own a gun myself. There is absolutely NO WAY that gun would EVER be accessible to my sixth grader. Ridiculous. If you took it I was grouping all gun owners in the same way, you took it wrong. Or I wrote it wrong. That was not my intent. But this kid's parents? If he got the gun from home? Ought to be in jail for child endangerment. Are we never going to learn???
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    right! but i can visualize this happening due to the child's age.
    I can visualize it happening no matter the age of the user. A child his age however can very well understand gun safety and practice it accordingly.
    Last edited by Henrin; 12-18-12 at 04:26 PM. Reason: *gun safety

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    When I was young one of the other kids brought a bullet to school, we managed to set it off in the bathroom. Not to mention the M80s we brought when we could get our hands on them, light em and flush them down the toilet (at school of course). There wasn't a boy in attendence who didn't have a pocket knife on them, and we all did stupid things with them (at school).

    However, I agree the parents should be charged if it's their weapon. It's just common sense, here we have this national tragedy, the first thing a thinking person would do is to check to see that their children did not have access to the parents' guns. Safety 101.
    there is another side to these events to but I think most will know where i am going.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    He neatly illustrates the falsehood that possessing a gun makes you and your friends safer. He can't be blamed for thinking that, it's the prevailing meme. The gun's owner should be charged with child endangerment or whatever.
    I did not want to be the first to say it but thanks all the same.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    His father and/or mother should be thrown in jail. There is absolutely no freakin' WAY!!! a kid his age should have access to a gun. What's the matter with gun owners?? WTH are they thinking???
    That he had a right to do it and it was ok because it would make his school and friends safer. NOT.
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