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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Because it saves lives. Something that is apparently not a good thing in your mind.
    Do we not have a right to end our own life? I would say yes we do, but apparently you disagree.

    The lie that guns make you safe must be debunked and owners need to lock up their weapons or else. There is no excuse for allowing a minor to use your gun without your knowledge and supervision EVER. Anything a child does with their parents guns should be treated the same as if the gun owner did it all by himself.
    That has nothing to do with our talk we are having.

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Because it saves lives. Something that is apparently not a good thing in your mind. The lie that guns make you safe must be debunked and owners need to lock up their weapons or else. There is no excuse for allowing a minor to use your gun without your knowledge and supervision EVER. Anything a child does with their parents guns should be treated the same as if the gun owner did it all by himself.
    this is assuming that all life is precious..... the people who made today's paper in Phoenix for killing a child
    that was in their daycare don't deserve to live. The other couple that scalded a child with hot water for wetting her pants don't deserve to live. The child was burned so bad she needs skin grafts.
    Not all life is worth protecting. These people deserve hard time in the general population of some prison where there are plenty of lifers with nothing to lose.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Do we not have a right to end our own life? I would say yes we do, but apparently you disagree.



    That has nothing to do with our talk we are having.
    I hope I have the right when my time comes. But it won't be done with a gun, too messy. Stage 5 Parkinson's isn't my idea of living.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by madman View Post
    I tell ya, all of these nut jobs are coming out of the woodwork.
    His parents should do some time for this if the gun was found to come from the home.

    Ohh, and this doesnt surprise me coming from "UTAH".
    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I don't think he's a "nut job". I think he's an 11-year old child who is very scared.

    A sixth-grade Utah boy was in police custody late Monday after bringing a handgun to school, reportedly so that he could defend himself in the event of an attack, Granite School District officials said.

    "He has alluded in his defense that he brought it as a way to defend himself and his friends if there was a Connecticut-style incident at the school," district spokesman Ben Horsley said.
    Another reason to not take this OP seriously.

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Chart means nothing with no numeric information at all.
    Homicide does not necessarily mean gun shot. There are lots of ways to kill someone. Frying pan for instance.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Do we not have a right to end our own life? I would say yes we do, but apparently you disagree.



    That has nothing to do with our talk we are having.

    Do you think a sane person would end his own life?
    I just want every gun purchaser to sign a paper saying that he knows that owning a gun increases your chance of death or injury as well as those of your loved ones.
    At least they won't be cluless idiots like that Newton mother and they have been properly warned. Ignorance of this has alot to do with the proliferation that we are now paying the price for.

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    this is assuming that all life is precious..... the people who made today's paper in Phoenix for killing a child
    that was in their daycare don't deserve to live. The other couple that scalded a child with hot water for wetting her pants don't deserve to live. The child was burned so bad she needs skin grafts.
    Not all life is worth protecting. These people deserve hard time in the general population of some prison where there are plenty of lifers with nothing to lose.
    What does that have to do with disturbed young kids who have the impulse to shoot themselves? 75% of child/young adult suicides are committed with the parents guns.

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I hope I have the right when my time comes. But it won't be done with a gun, too messy. Stage 5 Parkinson's isn't my idea of living.
    That is called euthanasia not suicide and I agree that that should be legal.
    But when a child kills himself on impulse with the parents gun I think the parents should be charged with premeditated homicide.

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Do you think a sane person would end his own life?
    Yes and sane people do choose to end their lives. Considering we're the only state that allows physician assissted suicide, the folks in other states who are facing harrowing ends of life, some might just choose to go that way.

    Personally, in that situation, I choose drugs.

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    What does that have to do with disturbed young kids who have the impulse to shoot themselves? 75% of child/young adult suicides are committed with the parents guns.
    I'd like to see the source of that stat, doesn't jibe with what I've seen. I'd think wrist cutting and drugs are more prevelent for teen suicides. Girls in particular tend to avoid messing up the face.

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