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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    Prove that the right to own guns is directly linked to higher crime and suicide rates. So by this logic, if guns were made illegal, crime and suicide rates would plummet.
    Suicide rates are higher is areas with long periods of gloomy weather....we should ban bad weather.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    Prove that the right to own guns is directly linked to higher crime and suicide rates. So by this logic, if guns were made illegal, crime and suicide rates would plummet.
    You mean like in Australia where homicide rates are at all time lows?


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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Our children were deprived....when video games came out, I would not let them in our house. We had our kids involved in activities like baseball and softball, dance, scouts, camping and fishing with family, helping grandma and grandpa around their house, likewise with other elderly neighbors, etc.
    They turned out to be college educated taxpayers.
    Good thing the ACLU never found out....
    Damned near unAmerican.
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Damned near unAmerican.
    the ACLU? or me?
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    appears you choose to ignore reality
    and that is your option to exercise

    however, not for me
    any 11/12 year old boy absolutely knows that weapons are something that cannot be taken to school
    the only exception would be those who are of that pre-teen chronological age but with an intellect which does not match their years
    so, if the kid arrived at school on a short bus, he gets a free pass
    if not, book him dano
    You missed my point entirely
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Suicide rates are higher is areas with long periods of gloomy weather....we should ban bad weather.
    Some important statistics to keep in mind:
    A little over half of all suicides in the United States use firearms.
    More than 90% of attempts with firearms are fatal, far outweighing the success rate of other methods (such as drug overdose or cutting, which are about 3% successful) (source).
    Suicides account for over half of all shootings.
    Although most gun owners reportedly keep a firearm in their home for "protection" or "self defense," 83 percent of gun-related deaths in these homes are the result of a suicide, often by someone other than the gun owner. The majority of suicides are from an impulsive decision. Seventy percent of suicide attempters decide to kill themselves on an impulse - less than an hour before their attempt. The ready availability of guns makes for a deadly combination.
    Ninety percent of people who survive a suicide attempt do not go on to die by suicide.
    [And this one is for the parents out there. Do you want your child dead? Keep a gun available.
    75% of youth suicides by gun used a parent's firearm

    http://newtrajectory.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-problem-of-guns-and-suicide.html"]
    Last edited by iguanaman; 12-19-12 at 01:24 PM.

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Gun safety training done with a video game?..
    How about gun safety in a violent video game. XD

    It would have to hidden somehow to keep the fun factor, but I would laugh at the sight of it.

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    How about gun safety in a violent video game. XD

    It would have to hidden somehow to keep the fun factor, but I would laugh at the sight of it.
    If a safety rule is violated, the game player shuts off for 48 hours....crime and punishment in one swell foop....
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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I prefer not to increase my chances of me or my family being shot like owning a gun does. I don't keep any live grenades around either.
    Like I said earlier:

    In the US 18% of burglaries happen when someone is home while in Europe where guns are banned 60% happen when someone is home. Do you want to know why it comes out that way? Here is a hint, being shot in the face sucks.

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    Re: Utah 6th-grader in custody after bringing gun to school

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Some important statistics to keep in mind:
    A little over half of all suicides in the United States use firearms.
    More than 90% of attempts with firearms are fatal, far outweighing the success rate of other methods (such as drug overdose or cutting, which are about 3% successful) (source).
    Suicides account for over half of all shootings.
    Although most gun owners reportedly keep a firearm in their home for "protection" or "self defense," 83 percent of gun-related deaths in these homes are the result of a suicide, often by someone other than the gun owner. The majority of suicides are from an impulsive decision. Seventy percent of suicide attempters decide to kill themselves on an impulse - less than an hour before their attempt. The ready availability of guns makes for a deadly combination.
    Ninety percent of people who survive a suicide attempt do not go on to die by suicide.
    [And this one is for the parents out there. Do you want your child dead? Keep a gun available.
    75% of youth suicides by gun used a parent's firearm

    http://newtrajectory.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-problem-of-guns-and-suicide.html"]
    link not working for me, but I would want a source from government, not a blog....
    from AFSP: facts and figures....
    Studies indicate that the best way to prevent suicide is through the early recognition and treatment of depression and other psychiatric illnesses.
    Last edited by UtahBill; 12-19-12 at 01:35 PM.
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