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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Once more, with feeling: do you want to prevent there from being a massive public backlash against gun ownership? Then you must be prepared to give a little. This principle of 'noncompromise' on the Right has done it more harm than anything else I can think of.

    Better a gunpowder tax than an assault weapons ban.
    Lets just have a mother killing ban, a gun stealing ban and a mass murder ban as well. Banning heroine, cocaine and extascy worked so well, obviously banning "scary looking" guns will work too, since no criminal orgainization is likely to import and sell them. Since you cannot put that toothpaste back into the tube, and punish the (deceased) moron responsible, you seek to do the next best thing - add gov't and raise taxes.
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Well, if that's true I'd suggest we just forget about guns, because the gun lobby calls the shots (oops) in this country. It doesn't matter how many dead 6 year olds get piled up.

    that is because honest gun owners have no responsibility or guilt for what murderous criminals do. Intelligent and rational people understand that

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you are here to merely bait people? OK
    If the unintelligent are baited by me, then I stand guilty as charged.
    I dip my forefinger in the watery blood of your impotent mad-redeemer (your Divine Democrat — your Hebrew Madman) and write over his thorn-torn brow, “The true prince of Evil — the king of the Slaves!”
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Lets just have a mother killing ban, a gun stealing ban and a mass murder ban as well. Banning heroine, cocaine and extascy worked so well, obviously banning "scary looking" guns will work too, since no criminal orgainization is likely to import and sell them. Since you cannot put that toothpaste back into the tube, and punish the (deceased) moron responsible, you seek to do the next best thing - add gov't and raise taxes.
    Nobody's calling for a ban on anything, are they? Not, at least, in this thread. I'm certainly not. It is strange, though, that you'd associate a tax on a voluntary transaction which would have not been considered controversial at all in, say, 1890 or 1920 as tantamount to 'banning' something.

    A tax is not a ban. And a ban is not a tax. And never the twain shall meet.
    I dip my forefinger in the watery blood of your impotent mad-redeemer (your Divine Democrat — your Hebrew Madman) and write over his thorn-torn brow, “The true prince of Evil — the king of the Slaves!”
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Nobody's calling for a ban on anything, are they? Not, at least, in this thread. I'm certainly not. It is strange, though, that you'd associate a tax on a voluntary transaction which would have not been considered controversial at all in, say, 1890 or 1920 as tantamount to 'banning' something.

    A tax is not a ban. And a ban is not a tax. And never the twain shall meet.
    the power to tax is the power to destroy.

    and there are other ways to destroy as well. try to destroy with one thing-and those being attacked might destroy with some other thing

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the power to tax is the power to destroy.
    The power to tax is deliberately not using the power to destroy, or else you'd have destroyed and not taxed.

    Incidentally, your little threats are puerile and hilarious.
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    And again: the idea of a gunpowder tax originated in Britain. In the 1890s. In the Party that at the time was associated with low-taxes.

    Though, of course, that said, in a modern context, the Democrats did win the last election. Quite handily, too, might I add.
    Do you remember what happened when the British tried taxing tea?
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    The power to tax is deliberately not using the power to destroy, or else you'd have destroyed and not taxed.

    Incidentally, your little threats are puerile and hilarious.
    what threats-you appear to have gone from posting bait posts to paranoid ones!

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Nobody's calling for a ban on anything, are they? Not, at least, in this thread. I'm certainly not. It is strange, though, that you'd associate a tax on a voluntary transaction which would have not been considered controversial at all in, say, 1890 or 1920 as tantamount to 'banning' something.

    A tax is not a ban. And a ban is not a tax. And never the twain shall meet.
    There are reports that the shooter has an obsession with violent video games. How much should we tax them for empowering and/or desensitizing him?

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Do you remember what happened when the British tried taxing tea?
    its amazing how many of the anti gun far left hates honest gun owners more than whacked out criminals who murder defenseless teachers and children.


    then again, its the lefties who make excuses for sick criminals and enable their actions by creating GUN FREE (victim disarmament) zones

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