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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I am. What I am is a libertarian in the complete, European sense - friendly to non-government labor unions and workers' co-operatives, sympathetic to the rural poor, in favor of political equanimity. What I am not is an Austrian clone who reads Rand or Mises and goes off thinking I'm some rugged individual, like the millions of other rugged individuals out there.

    a leftwing populist-aka a socialist. you hate individual freedom

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Funny. The day before he committed the crime he had every right to own those firearms and a lot more besides. He apparently wasn't crazy then.
    True, but that won't get more gov't and a gunpowder tax too. The idea is to use the latest "crisis" to expand gov't and/or taxation. Get with the program.
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Once more, with feeling: do you want to prevent there from being a massive public backlash against gun ownership? Then you must be prepared to give a little. This principle of 'noncompromise' on the Right has done it more harm than anything else I can think of.

    Better a gunpowder tax than an assault weapons ban.
    an assault weapon ban is political suicide for the deems
    and why should we give up rights when we give nothing in return

    its like telling we will allow you to speak against the government if you pay a tax everytime you do

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what do the gun haters like you give in return? given we have the constitution on our side TWICE

    1) there is no proper power delegated to the federal government to regulate small arms-your side ignored the tenth amendment under FDR and grabbed that power
    1. "My side"? I'd have voted against Roosevelt in every election save 1932, and then only residually, as a holdover Al Smith voter in 1928.

    2. Congress has the authority to regulate and tax gunpowder sales as it does everything else. Note that I'm not calling for additional taxes on guns.

    2) the second amendment.
    Gunpowder is mentioned nowhere in it.

    each year gun haters like you want to take more from us and give us nothing in return
    Take your pity-party elsewhere.
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    1. "My side"? I'd have voted against Roosevelt in every election save 1932, and then only residually, as a holdover Al Smith voter in 1928.

    2. Congress has the authority to regulate and tax gunpowder sales as it does everything else. Note that I'm not calling for additional taxes on guns.



    Gunpowder is mentioned nowhere in it.



    Take your pity-party elsewhere.
    your suggestion is stupid, irrational and based on hatred.

    it does nothing positive and is designed to make shooting sports too expensive for most people

    arms includes bullets and gun powder.

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the idiotic posts from the left are getting beyond pathetic.
    I'm just trying to reassure all of you fretting about your guns. You have nothing to worry about. The NRA sets gun policy in this country, not the people.
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    a leftwing populist-aka a socialist. you hate individual freedom
    "Populism" in the United States refers broadly to socially conservative economic redistributivism. I favor localization and worker's co-operatives operated independently of all State interference - precisely the opposite of American populism. There's little more free than voluntary association.
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    your suggestion is stupid, irrational and based on hatred.

    it does nothing positive and is designed to make shooting sports too expensive for most people

    arms includes bullets and gun powder.
    I see you've been reduced to sputtering epithets. It's all good fun, my man.
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    True, but that won't get more gov't and a gunpowder tax too. The idea is to use the latest "crisis" to expand gov't and/or taxation. Get with the program.
    Well, if that's true I'd suggest we just forget about guns, because the gun lobby calls the shots (oops) in this country. It doesn't matter how many dead 6 year olds get piled up.
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    I see you've been reduced to sputtering epithets. It's all good fun, my man.
    so you are here to merely bait people? OK

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