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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I said it was a problem?



    Nor intimidation use either Mr 20k rounds stashed in the basement.
    how many golf balls do you think a scratch golfer hits in a year

    how many tennis balls does an all american tennis player serve in a year

    well I was a world class shooter and I expect my son will be

    I don't have near that many rounds in my basement

    but I have lots and lots in fireproof safes. we shoot a thousand rounds of month easily

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    we shoot a thousand rounds of month easily
    I remember the days when I put more than a thousand rounds downrange each month.

    The very first day I arrived at my first Army unit (it was an Air Defense Battery- company level organization) the unit was heading to the range. I took my M1911 45 cal pistol and went. We fired quite a bit. I had not fired in months but it came back easily. Although the weapon was untuned and sloppy I did quite well. "Nice shootin' WT" said one Sergeant. Another chimed in with similar words.

    I went to my platoon sergeant, " I know what LT is. What is WT?" Why William Tell, sir," came his response.

    Those were very interesting times.

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    how many golf balls do you think a scratch golfer hits in a year

    how many tennis balls does an all american tennis player serve in a year

    well I was a world class shooter and I expect my son will be

    I don't have near that many rounds in my basement

    but I have lots and lots in fireproof safes. we shoot a thousand rounds of month easily

    Okay so nice for you

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its not fear-its a desire to harass people who are "not progressive" by attacking a right progressives often do not utilize
    Don't you just LOVE how they're using this tragedy to try and take away one of our rights? What the heck is wrong with these people anyway. I swear all of the people who agree to "banning" or "restricting" one of our rights must be under the age of 12 since they don't seem to realize the Pandora's box they are opening. It's so annoying.

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Even though the people here who support taking away one of our rights openly ADMIT that their silly laws and bans would have NOT changed the outcome of this particular situation, and even though it has been pointed out TIME AND TIME AGAIN that criminals don't follow laws nor listen to bans, they still INSIST on their ridiculousness. Why?

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    So what can we do?
    What should we do?

    Repeal all gun free zone legislation. Nationwide. Allow each school board to determine whether or not they want to be gun free. Hold the board members personally liable for their vote.
    Develop the Armored Schools Initiative. Provide block grants to states based on the number and square footage of the schools. Have the money go to the schools to armor the exteriors, internal doors...whatever is appropriate for each school.
    Develop the Master Armed Teacher Initiative and competition. Provide block grants to the states to train and arm government employees beginning with teachers and administrators. Give them a month of tactical training with a variety of weapons. Let each individual choose the weapon they prefer and are best able to master. At the end of the training their "graduation" gift can be the handgun of their choice based on their demonstrated proficiency.
    Have annual competitions. Begin at the county, city and state levels. Have small individual prizes for the top five competitors in each category. Maybe a sliding scale from $100 per competitor all the way up to $10,000 for the top competitor at each level of competition. At the national level the winner takes home $100K for him or herself with a million dollar prize for the school district.
    Change the laws so a trained individual's use of a hand gun to protect anyone cannot be tried criminally or civilly. Have a five member panel determine if the shooting was appropriate. If appropriate the case is closed. If not then take it to trial.

    Change concealed carry laws to encourage citizens to become trained and armed. Offer tax benefits to those who train and arm.

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    One Bushmasterr .223 selling point is the load, because it has better fragmentation upon impact, meaning it will deal a lot of damage with less chance of accidentally continuing through the target and endangering whoever's in the background. Mr Lanza will have been comforted to know that his shots would have spread and stopped inside the target child's body, and not accidentally injured somebody by coming out the other side.
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    If someone else had been armed at this school, they could have stopped this from happening. That is the TRULY sad thing. These people in "gun-free" zones are sitting ducks for criminals who don't care about "gun-free zones."

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    This is not going to be a popular opinion, but the best thing to "do" is to do nothing. Every option on the table either makes us less free or less safe.

    We can't let emotion overwhelm us and drive our decisions. Yes, what happened was tragic. We have to accept that sometimes tragic things happen, and there isn't anything that can be done about it.

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    Here's a solution for you: implement a five cent tax on gunpowder to restore the mental health services Ronald Reagan gutted in the 1980s.

    But that's pragmatic, and doesn't lend itself well to moralistic shrieking.

    EDIT: Of course, this has also been proposed by the fellows at the Democratic Underground, so you may rest assured that fault will be found with the proposers of this policy, rather than the policy itself.
    I love this idea.

    The stories coming out now, told by parents dealing with adolescents with serious mental health issues, and their only recourse is to have their child arrested. That is shameful that mentally ill people have to commit a crime before we doing anything to help them.

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