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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Are you comparing the US to the Congo? Seriously?

    Again tell me why gun violence is such a problem in the US.
    Why isn't genocide a problem in the US? Everyone acts like we are the most violent people in earth. We are no where close.

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you are saying is you have no understanding of the second amendment
    The Second Amendment was written when it took 15 seconds to reload a gun. I wonder if the Forefathers are rolling in their graves today.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Why isn't genocide a problem in the US? Everyone acts like we are the most violent people in earth. We are no where close.
    Quit changing the goalposts.

    Why is gun violence such a problem in the US?
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    In other words the discredited unsupported statist version rejected by almost every legal scholar and the US Supreme Court.
    So you don't think differently of something that has been passed perhaps through all branches of government? Obamacare? Roe vs Wade? both of them proclaimed constitutional by our government, but I'm sure you think otherwise though.

    We all have different interpretations and thoughts of certains documents and legislations. Just because mine perhaps might not be one shared by the majority or looked down upon by some, it does not mean it is wrong in a moral or factual sense.
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    When you restrict or take away one right, it puts ALL of our rights at risk.
    That is the nature of law itself to restrict actions that are substantially harmful to society than perhaps productive or beneficial. Absolute freedom equates to anarchy which I'm assuming you're not a fan of.

    I'm sorry if you're upset with our restriction of your right of murder, but I think the other party might be thankful.

    Please don't make such statement that are dangerously general.
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    The Second Amendment was written when it took 15 seconds to reload a gun. I wonder if the Forefathers are rolling in their graves today.
    And that was considered an incredible time for a british regular. Imagine what the reload time would be for an average american militiaman.
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    That is the nature of law itself to restrict actions that are substantially harmful to society than perhaps productive or beneficial. Absolute freedom equates to anarchy which I'm assuming you're not a fan of.

    I'm sorry if you're upset with our restriction of your right of murder, but I think the other party might be thankful.

    Please don't make such statement that are dangerously general.
    Quit it with the hyperbole, will you? We have ALWAYS had the rights that the second amendment affords us. Seen any "anarchy" yet?

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Quit changing the goalposts.

    Why is gun violence such a problem in the US?
    Because we have some mentally disturbed violent people which is what this thread started out addressing. If we did not have guns, they would be violent other ways (for example: Cops: Canada bus killer ate victim's flesh - World news - Americas | NBC News). I am not moving the goal post unless your only goal is to take guns. My goal is to address the violence, beginning with the violent mentally ill we have. From there we address avoiding violence by changing our education system but we cannot ignore the more immediate problem.

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Quit it with the hyperbole, will you? We have ALWAYS had the rights that the second amendment affords us. Seen any "anarchy" yet?
    Why am I not allowed to bring a gun to school then? Isnt that a breach of my 2nd amendment rights to you? So apparantly we all havent been afforded our absolute 2nd amendment right. Similar to the way the 1st amendment is limited the 2nd amendment is limited to preserve the stability of the USA.
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    That is the nature of law itself to restrict actions that are substantially harmful to society than perhaps productive or beneficial. Absolute freedom equates to anarchy which I'm assuming you're not a fan of.

    I'm sorry if you're upset with our restriction of your right of murder, but I think the other party might be thankful.

    Please don't make such statement that are dangerously general.
    I just can't help myself. Your fearful hyperbole is Hilarious.

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