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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Apply this to voting and you might have something.
    In person voting fraud is virtually non existent so actually it isnt totally parralleled as you claimed.

    Besides I don't really see voter fraud as horrific a crime as murder especially on a massive scale.

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    These desensitizing video games are available to the world. So explain to me why they only mostly affect Americans, if that is the reson behind the violence. (yes I realize that mass shooting occur in other countries... but not in the same scale as in the US)
    And the mass genocide that goes on in other parts of the world with guns, machetes, and any weapon people can find do not happen in the United States. Explain to me how we are more violent when we do not dig mass graves?

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    Oh I'm fine when it comes to firearms that are meant for hunting or similar recreational uses. When you say however that my intention is not infact to work towards improving society, but to punish people for no reason that makes me question the actual value of your opinion.
    so you are saying is you have no understanding of the second amendment

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    In person voting fraud is virtually non existent so actually it isnt totally parralleled as you claimed.

    Besides I don't really see voter fraud as horrific a crime as murder especially on a massive scale.

    Policy Brief on the Truth About “Voter Fraud” | Brennan Center for Justice
    I did not mention fraud. I believe each person should have to prove that he or she is a responsible citizen before being allowed to vote. This last vote did in our nation. It is only a matter of time before we see economic collapse. The murders of 27 people pales in comparison to the loss of a nation.

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    In person voting fraud is virtually non existent so actually it isnt totally parralleled as you claimed.

    Besides I don't really see voter fraud as horrific a crime as murder especially on a massive scale.

    Policy Brief on the Truth About “Voter Fraud” | Brennan Center for Justice
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's a non answer and silly. what Misterviertis noted is that almost every active shooter massacre occurred in areas where the AS knew that he would not readily be confronted by an armed defender. active shooters are rarely skilled shooters and are cowards and tend to fold up and kill themselves 90% of the time when initially challenged. your solution is to allow an AS to go unchallenged for as long as it takes the police to respond

    in VT according to nationally known expert on AS (John Benner) VT had a top flight response team that was deployed within EIGHT MINUTES of the first report of the main massacre starting. Yet the killer was shooting several people a MINUTE
    As if the majority of your answers on this thread have had any substance to them.

    Why havent these been occuring at this frequency for years then? perhaps even back since the late 1940's? I'm not researched in the matter as of yet, but my hypothesis would be based on the availability of guns and perhaps a social factor as well? What is your answer?
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    so you are saying is you have no understanding of the second amendment
    As I stated in my initial post which it appears you neglected to read although I believe you quoted it. I put my interpretation of te 2nd Amendment is to fullfill our need of a National Militia. This is done by our National Guard thus maing the latter part of the text nill. So in reality, based off of my intrepretation your gun rights are up for grabs.
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by falcata View Post
    As I stated in my initial post which it appears you neglected to read although I believe you quoted it. I put my interpretation of te 2nd Amendment is to fullfill our need of a National Militia. This is done by our National Guard thus maing the latter part of the text nill. So in reality, based off of my intrepretation your gun rights are up for grabs.

    In other words the discredited unsupported statist version rejected by almost every legal scholar and the US Supreme Court.

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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I did not mention fraud. I believe each person should have to prove that he or she is a responsible citizen before being allowed to vote. This last vote did in our nation. It is only a matter of time before we see economic collapse. The murders of 27 people pales in comparison to the loss of a nation.
    I'm sorry I misunderstood.

    I firmly believe that any citizen in our nation has a right to vote. Such is the basis of our society and should not be trifled with. Often times we equate differences in political ideaology with idiodicy which is wrong we just have different opinions and values. Theres really nothing wrong with that and I'm not saying you said otherwise, but right now every vote counts while every gun doesnt.
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    Re: Sandy Hook: Beyond gun control, disease control

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    And the mass genocide that goes on in other parts of the world with guns, machetes, and any weapon people can find do not happen in the United States. Explain to me how we are more violent when we do not dig mass graves?
    Are you comparing the US to the Congo? Seriously?

    Again tell me why gun violence is such a problem in the US.
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