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'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains why

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ashurbanipal said:
Nearly as long. But by that logic, American Indians ought to be running the show.
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its called natural selection, it works every time.
 
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Rocketman said:
its called natural selection, it works every time.
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there was a reason that when the europeans showed up in africa in their sailing ships, carrying firearms the africans met them in dugout canoes carrying pointy sticks ;)
 
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OscarB63 said:
yeah, there is no comparison between slavery and wholesale genocide.
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Wholesale genocide??? The native Americans fought a war for 300 years, but genocide was not what the invaders had in mind. If it was, the native American people would be gone. They wanted to convert them to Christianity etc.

OscarB63 said:
as for the stigma of being a black male....most of those so stigmatized these days bring it on themselves. maybe my perspective is skewed because I've spent most of my adult life in the military where the color of your skin is not a determining factor. My current Brigade CO (O6 Colonel) is a black man, our current HQ first sgt (master sgt) is a black man and I could give you a laundry list of senior NCOs and Officers in our brigade who are black men. none of them allowed being black to handicap them and keep them in the ghettos.
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What a moronic statement.

Please point out where I said it was holding anyone back? Just because it exists, has no bearing on who or who is not held back by anything.

OscarB63 said:
blaming a lack of success in today's society on the color of your skin is a cop-out.
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Please point out where I said this? Is strawman all you know?
 
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Blackdog said:
Wholesale genocide??? The native Americans fought a war for 300 years, but genocide was not what the invaders had in mind. If it was, the native American people would be gone. They wanted to convert them to Christianity etc.
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unintended consequences are a bitch. how many "indians" were here when the white man showed up? and how many were left after that 300 years?



What a moronic statement.

Please point out where I said it was holding anyone back? Just because it exists, has no bearing on who or who is not held back by anything.
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well...if it's not holding them back....why bring it up? stigma usually implies negative consequences :shrug:



Please point out where I said this? Is strawman all you know?
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I never said you said it. forgive me for adding a general comment into my reply. next time I'll make a completely separate post just to add in that one sentence :roll:
 
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OscarB63 said:
unintended consequences are a bitch. how many "indians" were here when the white man showed up? and how many were left after that 300 years?
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It was war. People die in war. This does not make it genocide.

OscarB63 said:
well...if it's not holding them back....why bring it up? stigma usually implies negative consequences :shrug:
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Holding back is a relative term. This however does not mean it does not exist, period.

OscarB63 said:
I never said you said it. forgive me for adding a general comment into my reply. next time I'll make a completely separate post just to add in that one sentence :roll:
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Nice dodge. It was among the responses to my statements which you quoted. Not my fault you could not add a simple 2 word disclaimer to make it known it was a general statement. I guess that would be asking to much.
 
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Blackdog said:
Holding back is a relative term. This however does not mean it does not exist, period.
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big ****ing whoop....lots of things "exist" ...period...what's your point? I live with the ... GASP... "stigma" of wearing glasses, being left handed, being from the south, being of mixed ancestry



Nice dodge. It was among the responses to my statements which you quoted. Not my fault you could not add a simple 2 word disclaimer to make it known it was a general statement. I guess that would be asking to much.
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it was the very last sentence in my post...it was not a direct reply to anything you posted. butthurt much?
 
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dnsmith said:
I spent 27 years in the Army and your description is very accurate. Skin color is not a deterrent, not really in civilian society either. I have now been retired almost 25 years (come Feb) and in the south I see successful blacks as well. One of the biggest problems I have seen in the success of black men is the chip they seem to wear on their shoulder. Of course in the urban areas of the large northern cities that may not be true. I am sure the situation is exaggerated on TV, at least I hope it is. Otherwise it is time for them to come home to the south where the social climate is better.
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Based on the years in service and the years spent retired, that would put you enlisting right around 1960. Yet you did not see skin color as an issue. I enlisted in 1976, and I witnessed some very disturbing racial incidents, especially during the late 1970s and early 1980s. I won't call them race riots because there was usually no more than 20-30 people involved at the time. If everything was on point as it concerns racial issues, why is the racial make-up of the Infantry so very different than . . . I don't know . . . let's say, the Military Police, medical field, and nuclear field? Why are blacks more likely to be a Boatswains Mate (and they are really called "Deck Apes"to this day) and cooks rather than radar control techs? You will probably reply that it is their test scores holding them back . . . and that is about as true as it can get. We then have to ask why are the test scores so very different. You are completely right that skin color is no deterrent once in the service, I witnessed that myself. Afforded the same opportunities as white people, black people are just as successful as any other race. I also witnessed something a little disturbing from successful black people . . . a certain amount of prejudice towards other blacks who have not made it to their level of success. Some of the most prejudice people I know are successful black people looking down on other blacks. Prejudice still exists.

I have been stationed in Alabama and Memphis, and I have to admit, there does not seem to be the open prejudice against blacks I see up here in the Chicagoland area. Most black people I know up here in the North, that have come from the South said the difference in the North is they are open about it . . . and apparently, at least according to them, they prefer it that way. My experiences are not every one's experience and I know that . . . I just thought I'd share my view in reply to your very respectful post.
 
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OscarB63 said:
both my parents were 50%. two of my grandparents were 100%
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You have your card?
 
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Caine said:
You have your card?
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never saw the need. unlike some people...I don't think that I deserve special treatment due to my ethnic background or because someone's ancestors mistreated my ancestors ;)
 
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OscarB63 said:
when 47% of the population is paying no taxes....how would you describe that...if it is not sucking off the govt teat? and since when is preparing for a worst case scenario paranoia?
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Funny that's it's not even corrects. It's not 47% of the population and it's not 47% paying no taxes.

****, it's your own ****ing party's talking point, I'd think you'd be able to get it right.
 
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whysoserious said:
Funny that's it's not even corrects. It's not 47% of the population and it's not 47% paying no taxes.

****, it's your own ****ing party's talking point, I'd think you'd be able to get it right.
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a single tear rolls down my cheek. you mad brah?
 
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OscarB63 said:
a single tear rolls down my cheek. you mad brah?
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Why would I be mad that you can't even get your own talking points right. I even saw you try to clarify it later as "no income tax", which is closer, but still wrong because it's FEDERAL INCOME TAX. But yeah, whatever. And it's not 47% of Americans either.

Pro Tip: If you are going to try arguing points, it's generally a good idea to not be completely wrong all of the time.
 
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whysoserious said:
Why would I be mad that you can't even get your own talking points right. I even saw you try to clarify it later as "no income tax", which is closer, but still wrong because it's FEDERAL INCOME TAX. But yeah, whatever. And it's not 47% of Americans either.

Pro Tip: If you are going to try arguing points, it's generally a good idea to not be completely wrong all of the time.
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boo dee ****ing who. anyone who is not a retarded crybaby got the point. :2bigcry:
 
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OscarB63 said:
boo dee ****ing who. anyone who is not a retarded crybaby got the point. :2bigcry:
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Yes, the point that you can't even form even the most basic of arguments.
 
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OscarB63 said:
big ****ing whoop....lots of things "exist" ...period...what's your point? I live with the ... GASP... "stigma" of wearing glasses, being left handed, being from the south, being of mixed ancestry
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Like those are anything even close. As moronic a reply as ever.

OscarB63 said:
it was the very last sentence in my post...it was not a direct reply to anything you posted. butthurt much?
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I a direct reply to my post. Has nothing to do with "butt hurt." Something you seem to know about.
 
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Blackdog said:
Like those are anything even close. As moronic a reply as ever.
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and still nothing about what your point is... why am I not surprised?



I a direct reply to my post. Has nothing to do with "butt hurt." Something you seem to know about.
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whatever dude. I'll just have to chalk this one up to your "stigma" as a black man...finding offense where none was given or intended
 
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OscarB63 said:
and still nothing about what your point is... why am I not surprised?
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Already made my point. Not my fault it flew right over your head.

OscarB63 said:
whatever dude. I'll just have to chalk this one up to your "stigma" as a black man...finding offense where none was given or intended
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Why don't you chalk it up to you being unclear which would be the truth. Had nothing to do with being offended. :roll:
 
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Blackdog said:
Already made my point. Not my fault it flew right over your head.
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so your point was to simply mention that you believe there is a black man stigma? so...what about it?



Why don't you chalk it up to you being unclear which would be the truth. Had nothing to do with being offended. :roll:
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it was clear. I multi quoted you. adding a reply after each quote. there was no quote preceding the last line of my comment. therefore it was clear to anyone with half a brain and without a chip on their shoulder that the last sentence was not a reply to anything you said. stay mad, brah and, as always...thanks for playing :thumbs:
 
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OscarB63 said:
so your point was to simply mention that you believe there is a black man stigma? so...what about it?
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Nope, keep going.

OscarB63 said:
it was clear. I multi quoted you. adding a reply after each quote. there was no quote preceding the last line of my comment. therefore it was clear to anyone with half a brain and without a chip on their shoulder that the last sentence was not a reply to anything you said. stay mad, brah and, as always...thanks for playing :thumbs:
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Oh really?

OscarB63 said:
yeah, there is no comparison between slavery and wholesale genocide.

as for the stigma of being a black male....most of those so stigmatized these days bring it on themselves. maybe my perspective is skewed because I've spent most of my adult life in the military where the color of your skin is not a determining factor. My current Brigade CO (O6 Colonel) is a black man, our current HQ first sgt (master sgt) is a black man and I could give you a laundry list of senior NCOs and Officers in our brigade who are black men. none of them allowed being black to handicap them and keep them in the ghettos.

blaming a lack of success in today's society on the color of your skin is a cop-out.
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- http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...amie-foxx-explains-why-60.html#post1061292648

You don't even know what you are posting, hehehe.

Thanks for playing!

Hehehehehehehe!
 
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Blackdog said:
:2bigcry:
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and still nothing about why you cried about da black man stigma .....
 
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OscarB63 said:
and still nothing about why you cried about da black man stigma .....
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I already posted it but much like your inability to remember what you post you can't remember what others have posted.

I mean if baiting is all you have, you mite as well move along.
 
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Blackdog said:
I already posted it but much like your inability to remember what you post you can't remember what others have posted.

I mean if baiting is all you have, you mite as well move along.
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all you posted was a crybaby comment about living with the stigma of being a black man. oh laws haff murcy on me. lif sholl do be hards as a black mans... dat white debbil sho do be keepin me downs. :2bigcry:
 
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OscarB63 said:
all you posted was a crybaby comment about living with the stigma of being a black man.
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That would be a little thing we refer to as a lie. It was 1 part of a larger post. It was a response to this lie...

OscarB63 said:
and yet, unlike blacks...you don't see us bitching and crying and blaming "whitey" for all our problems. I wonder why that is :shrug:
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To which I replied...

Blackdog said:
Because they gave native Americans land, you get to set your own rules and lets not go into casino's and high interest loans. Native Americans were also not taken from there continent of origin after being sold into slavery by there own. They did not have to deal with Jim crow, slavery or the stigma of being a black male.

Native Americans did not have it easy, but there is no comparison.
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Oh wow it was the last thing in an entire list of things. Go figure? :mrgreen:

OscarB63 said:
oh laws haff murcy on me. lif sholl do be hards as a black mans... dat white debbil sho do be keepin me downs. :2bigcry:
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The only one crying and making stereotype bigoted comments would be you. I mean lets face it the only reason you are resorting to childishness, is that you have no argument. And let's not forget....

OscarB63 said:
so your point was to simply mention that you believe there is a black man stigma? so...what about it?
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Which I have shown to be well... inaccurate.

Then you moved on to this nonsense...

OscarB63 said:
it was clear. I multi quoted you. adding a reply after each quote. there was no quote preceding the last line of my comment. therefore it was clear to anyone with half a brain and without a chip on their shoulder that the last sentence was not a reply to anything you said. stay mad, brah and, as always...thanks for playing :thumbs:
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This is the post you were talking about that YOU made...

OscarB63 said:
yeah, there is no comparison between slavery and wholesale genocide.

as for the stigma of being a black male....most of those so stigmatized these days bring it on themselves. maybe my perspective is skewed because I've spent most of my adult life in the military where the color of your skin is not a determining factor. My current Brigade CO (O6 Colonel) is a black man, our current HQ first sgt (master sgt) is a black man and I could give you a laundry list of senior NCOs and Officers in our brigade who are black men. none of them allowed being black to handicap them and keep them in the ghettos.

blaming a lack of success in today's society on the color of your skin is a cop-out.
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So should I chalk this up to an Alzheimer incident? :mrgreen:

Thanks for playing a second time.
 
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Really, it's hard for the majority to understand. I'm only half-Asian, but that's enough for me to get perspective on both sides of the race argument. Whites really just don't understand because they will usually NEVER have the experience of being the minority.
 
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