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'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains why

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ThePlayDrive said:
1. Your eyes are not unclouded. You speak through unacknowledged white privilege. As for your conclusions as to who/what I am, you couldn't have come to a conclusion farther from the truth which is not at all surprising given your stubborn ignorance.

2. I didn't say that.

3. I hope nothing for you. You've already shown yourself to be far beyond that.
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Oh, let me guess.

"You are uneducated and I, the play drive, are the elite and supreme master of knowledge in the universe!"

That is pretty much what your discussion in this thread amounts to.
 
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American said:
It's doubtful you'd let a white person be that sensitive. If you wouldn't, then he's racist.
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Logic fail!
 
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Caine said:
I have the luxury of being able to see an event through unclouded eyes
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Please, everytime the issue comes up you're one of the first ones jumping on the "White men are the most persecuted people alive" bandwagon.
 
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Maenad said:
And how do you determine race from the rear of a car? Anyone who believes this bull need to go out and try it.
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When a cop runs a license plate for wants/warrants, he automatically finds out all he needs about the registered owner of the car. He doesn't have to find out that a black man is driving the car to pull him over - he already found out when he ran his plates.
 
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Superfly said:
I agree with Sam, that I don't think it's racist - he's just hypersensitive to things. You see it all the time. "Why'd you cook fried chicken? Because I'm black? Uh... no, it's because you told me once it's your favorite meal."

I love Jamie Foxx, and think he's a great actor, a great singer and a great piano player. He's also very funny. I just wish he wouldn't turn everything into race. Reminds me kind of a little like that Samuel L. Jackson character in Die Hard with a Vengeance. Dooood, not everything is about race.
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I just don't understand this obsession black people have with race. It's not as though race has ever been a factor in the social and political structure of america. They act as though being black has been a disadvantage in this country! I mean look at us white folks - do we obsess or whine about about being white? Of course not!
 
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: Jamie Foxx Jokes About Killing ‘All the White People’ in New Movie

Joe Newby Examiner.com | While appearing on Saturday Night Live this Saturday, Oscar winning actor Jamie Foxx spoke highly about killing white people in Quentin Tarantino’s new movie, “Django Unchained,” before asking the audience, “How great is that?”
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http://american3rdposition.com/?p=1331
 
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rocket88 said:
Please, everytime the issue comes up you're one of the first ones jumping on the "White men are the most persecuted people alive" bandwagon.
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I don't recall I have ever said that.

Just because I acknowledge BOTH blacks and whites...... as well as hispanic folks deal with problems from prejudices does not mean that I am jumping on the "White men are the most persecuted people alive" bandwagon. I am allowed to acknowledge that whites are also treated unfairly due to race without believing such a flawed philosophy.

I swear some people around here think that because one number is larger than another, we ignore the smaller number as if it doesn't exist.

(If you can't get the analogy, because blacks are discriminated against more often than whites we have to ignore the discrimination against whites as if he doesn't exist).
 
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Superfly said:
When a cop runs a license plate for wants/warrants, he automatically finds out all he needs about the registered owner of the car. He doesn't have to find out that a black man is driving the car to pull him over - he already found out when he ran his plates.
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I don't run plates of speeders before pulling them over.... policy dictates if I go over the speed limit I must use lights and sirens. If I am to catch a speeder I must exceed their speed, thus I have already activated lights and sirens to pull someone over before having the opportunity to run their plate.........
 
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Wiggen said:
I just don't understand this obsession black people have with race. It's not as though race has ever been a factor in the social and political structure of america. They act as though being black has been a disadvantage in this country! I mean look at us white folks - do we obsess or whine about about being white? Of course not!
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Now you are just being stupid.

Yes, blacks have been disadvantages..... yes... we all ****ing get it.

Now what we want people to do is quit hiding behind their race and get out and do something. This isn't the 1950s... 60s.... or even 80s...... Yes blacks are going to get slighted by some individual somewhere. Focusing on that level of paranoia isn't healthy.

Successful black men and women have not made it to where they are by getting offended at every turn by what they perceive may or may not be some individual discriminating against them due to their skin color.



And, as far as I am concerned, I am sick of giving those who complain of racism in every little word the respect and attention... and in some cases pity.... that they think they deserve.
 
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This is what stood out to me in the OP

"Super stars: Leonardo DiCaprio, Kerry Washington and Jamie spoke to Vibe magazine
'I come into this place to do a photo shoot and they got Ritz crackers and cheese.

'I'll be like, ain't this a b***h. Y'all didn't know black people was coming.'

In the same vein he explained that if he turned up to the photo shoot and there was fried chicken and watermelon, he would also be annoyed at the stereotype."

It seems that Jaime would not be happy with ritz crackers but if there was a more ethnic meal he would be offended as well, so I say ignore him and his hypersensativity.

It is 100% his problem and a very sad way to live a life.
 
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Maenad said:
Exactly. How many white people do you ever seen on the Oprah Winfrey Network?
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Or dancing on any music video these days.
 
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Caine said:
Now you are just being stupid.

Yes, blacks have been disadvantages..... yes... we all ****ing get it.

Now what we want people to do is quit hiding behind their race and get out and do something. This isn't the 1950s... 60s.... or even 80s...... Yes blacks are going to get slighted by some individual somewhere. Focusing on that level of paranoia isn't healthy.

Successful black men and women have not made it to where they are by getting offended at every turn by what they perceive may or may not be some individual discriminating against them due to their skin color.



And, as far as I am concerned, I am sick of giving those who complain of racism in every little word the respect and attention... and in some cases pity.... that they think they deserve.
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I'm sure black people everywhere will study your words and alter their behavior to comply with the right wing libertarian view of the world.
 
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Wiggen said:
I'm sure black people everywhere will study your words and alter their behavior to comply with the right wing libertarian view of the world.
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Im sure they won't.....


But they should.......
 
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Blackdog said:
I think we are done here. :mrgreen:

PS a great example would have been Catholics in Ireland. You missed that as well.
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White people in Ireland were being persecuted by members of different race?
 
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Paschendale said:
Spoken like someone who will never experience what it is to be oppressed, to see signs every day that society values you less. It is inescapable. It never goes away. Every black American experiences this, every Hispanic, every Jew, every Muslim, every atheist, every woman, every homosexual, every Indian (Hindu or American), every Asian, and everyone who isn't the supposed "default" heterosexual white Christian male in this country. It comes up literally every day of your life that society treats you as inferior.



No, you don't get it. You probably never will. And no, no one expects you to be color-blind. No one expects anyone to be color-blind. But you have the option not to be. Jamie Fox doesn't. And color-blindness isn't the issue. It's bigotry that is. It's viewing races as in competition with each other. It's assuming that a person's race necessarily affects their character, rather than understanding that character comes from background which is affected by the way we treat different races.

I'm not color-blind and no one has ever accused me of being racist.
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I call bullstuff onthis.

The fact that I am Jewish never entered into my daily life in any way shape or form.

I was never denied nor granted anything because I was Jewish.

Please show me where all these groups live every day saying I am _____________ (enter ethnic groups here) first and then living their day accordingly.
 
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Blackdog said:
I wish I had seen this earlier.

His comments are not far from the truth. As a black man we are under a stigma. I have watched people cross the street because they are scared. My wife and daughter were refused an upgraded room on the basis of the racist counter clerk. I mean people can say it is not that prevalent, but it is. It is just harder to notice because people keep it under raps for fear of reprisals.

In fact I agree with him. I notice little things like the Chicago Fireman in my scuba class who is friendly to everyone but me. Would not even talk to me if he could avoid it. The cop who stopped me and searched my bag for not other reason than I was walking down the street coming form work in the early morning. These are things most white people don't see or have to put up with. Getting pulled over constantly because I was driving a Conquest Tsi and black. No other reason to pull me over, none. In a conversation with Mac he brought up the constant stupid questions like "why do blacks do "insert stupid stereo type" from white friends and acquaintances. They don't mean to be insulting, but it is. Hell I have friends on Facebook from childhood who make comments like "you are black? when did this happen" and similar jokes because I don't speak Ebonics or listen to rap. They are just being funny and think it's a joke. They have no idea how insulting it actually is. Like the music I listen to defines me as a person.

You can say it's racist all you want, but it's not. It is just an unfortunate stigma that black males deal with our entire lives here in the good old USA.

If you think that is racist, well hehehe **** you and the horse you road in on.
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You sound like such a racist.
 
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Mason66 said:
I call bullstuff onthis.

The fact that I am Jewish never entered into my daily life in any way shape or form.

I was never denied nor granted anything because I was Jewish.
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Well, to be fair, being Jewish is not something people will recognize when they look at you. Judaism is a religion, and when you meet someone on the street, they won't know that unless you tell them.

Being dark skinned is something you can't exactly hide. There are unfortunately a set of connotations that society applies to someone who doesn't look white, someone who doesn't look "normal".
 
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Cilogy said:
Well, to be fair, being Jewish is not something people will recognize when they look at you. Judaism is a religion, and when you meet someone on the street, they won't know that unless you tell them.

Being dark skinned is something you can't exactly hide. There are unfortunately a set of connotations that society applies to someone who doesn't look white, someone who doesn't look "normal".
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Yes, overweight people, anorexic people, people missing a limb, etc, don't look "normal", at least to you.

But sometimes we just have to suck it up and move on with our lives.
 
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Grant said:
Yes, overweight people, anorexic people, people missing a limb, etc, don't look "normal", at least to you.

But sometimes we just have to suck it up and move on with our lives.
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Agreed, but my point was that there's this image of what looks normal, and anything outside of that norm is somehow diminished.
 
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Hatuey said:
You sound like such a racist.
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Blackdog has earned respect and admiration, and his opinion is relevant.

He rightfully does not deal with mindless yammering idiots like you.
 
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Cilogy said:
Agreed, but my point was that there's this image of what looks normal, and anything outside of that norm is somehow diminished.
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I'm a White guy who has lived and worked in countries where I was in the steep minority but have never felt less than normal. Why should I? Even when I was treated differently that was up to the other person to feel that way, not me. There are ignorant people everywhere and if we are going to base are lives on what ignorant people think or say we'll never get any rest.
 
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SMTA said:
Blackdog has earned respect and admiration, and his opinion is relevant.

He rightfully does not deal with mindless yammering idiots like you.
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You might have noticed Hatuey liked Blackdogs post and was being sarcastic.
 
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Hatuey said:
You sound like such a racist.
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Huh?

In fact what has happened to Blackdog has happened to me as well, and perhaps to others. I doubt it happens with the same frequency though, and less for me now that I'm older.

The problem for Blackdog is that there are people who are just jerks but he might surmise they are racists. I understand that when it happens to me, as a person of pallor, that they are just stupid people. Most people are honest and decent but that remaining 10% screws it up for everyone.
 
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SMTA said:
Blackdog has earned respect and admiration, and his opinion is relevant.

He rightfully does not deal with mindless yammering idiots like you.
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Sarcasm does not work well on the interwebs I see.
 
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Mason66 said:
I call bullstuff onthis.

The fact that I am Jewish never entered into my daily life in any way shape or form.

I was never denied nor granted anything because I was Jewish.

Please show me where all these groups live every day saying I am _____________ (enter ethnic groups here) first and then living their day accordingly.
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I have, many times. Both when I was still Jewish and later when I became an atheist.

Lucky for you, I say. But that doesn't diminish what others experience. Try to think about others besides yourself.
 
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