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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

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    Then you don't want to see it is all I can figure.
    or maybe I just don't hang out with the sorry ass indians
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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Which of your parents is 100% native American?
    both my parents were 50%. two of my grandparents were 100%
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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    or maybe I just don't hang out with the sorry ass indians
    That maybe true, then you do know it happens lol. LIAR! you have been found out! I am calling the NAACP and the Anti defamation league! I will then inform the tribal council and your parents of your slander! How dare you!
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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Because they gave native Americans land, you get to set your own rules and lets not go into casino's and high interest loans. Native Americans were also not taken from there continent of origin after being sold into slavery by there own. They did not have to deal with Jim crow, slavery or the stigma of being a black male.

    Native Americans did not have it easy, but there is no comparison.

    yeah, there is no comparison between slavery and wholesale genocide.

    as for the stigma of being a black male....most of those so stigmatized these days bring it on themselves. maybe my perspective is skewed because I've spent most of my adult life in the military where the color of your skin is not a determining factor. My current Brigade CO (O6 Colonel) is a black man, our current HQ first sgt (master sgt) is a black man and I could give you a laundry list of senior NCOs and Officers in our brigade who are black men. none of them allowed being black to handicap them and keep them in the ghettos.

    blaming a lack of success in today's society on the color of your skin is a cop-out.
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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    yeah, there is no comparison between slavery and wholesale genocide.

    as for the stigma of being a black male....most of those so stigmatized these days bring it on themselves. maybe my perspective is skewed because I've spent most of my adult life in the military where the color of your skin is not a determining factor. My current Brigade CO (O6 Colonel) is a black man, our current HQ first sgt (master sgt) is a black man and I could give you a laundry list of senior NCOs and Officers in our brigade who are black men. none of them allowed being black to handicap them and keep them in the ghettos.

    blaming a lack of success in today's society on the color of your skin is a cop-out.
    I spent 27 years in the Army and your description is very accurate. Skin color is not a deterrent, not really in civilian society either. I have now been retired almost 25 years (come Feb) and in the south I see successful blacks as well. One of the biggest problems I have seen in the success of black men is the chip they seem to wear on their shoulder. Of course in the urban areas of the large northern cities that may not be true. I am sure the situation is exaggerated on TV, at least I hope it is. Otherwise it is time for them to come home to the south where the social climate is better.

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    I've posted links earlier in this thread to studies which demonstrate pretty convincingly that people who are in a position to hire will disproportionately make negative judgements about black candidates and prefer white candidates, even when both have exactly the same resume.
    The study demonstrated no such thing. Two resumes may appear to be the same on the surface but underneath are never exactly the same. No two people have the exact same experience and there are any number of differences which would more easily explain the discrepancy than allegations of a vast conspiracy to keep blacks unemployed. For example, both candidates may have a degree in business but one may be from Harvard and the other from City College. One may have a recommendation from a person highly regarded in the field while the other may not. There could be elements of cronyism, one candidate may have better communication skills than the other, or maybe the interviewer just didn't like what one of the candidates wore to the interview, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    Pretty much everywhere. Affirmative action solved no such problem; inner city schools are terrible, and do not have the funds the hire good teachers, with the result that even the students who graduate from them don't have the necessary foundation to even attend a regional college, much less an institution in the top three tiers or so.
    I'm seeing a lot of excuses and not a lot of facts. Education is, by and large, what the student makes of it and to claim that no student of an inner city school is qualified for higher education is patently false. If a black woman in the early 20th century could become a self-made millionairess then there is no legitimate reason why blacks can't go to school instead of dropping out or squandering the educational opportunities they do have.

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    Also untrue. Black people have much higher conviction rates than white people. So it cannot be merely that they commit more crimes.
    False.

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    The Denzel is the exception to all rules. He is like the black Chuck Norris, lol.
    What I found funny was the way Ben couched his comment to exclude guys like Will Smith, arguably one of the biggest stars in recent memory (Independence day, I am legend, I robot, MIB series, hancock, seven pounds, bad boys, pursuit of happiness, hitch, etc)

    Samuel L. Jackson
    Morgan Freeman
    Don Cheadle
    Cuba Gooding Jr
    Ving Rhames
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    etc
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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    The Denzel is the exception to all rules. He is like the black Chuck Norris, lol.
    Someone excluded Will Smith earlier. I guess anytime someone comes up with an answer people will claim "doesn't count". An interesting debate tactic...if you're debating children.

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Education is, by and large, what the student makes of it and to claim that no student of an inner city school is qualified for higher education is patently false. If a black woman in the early 20th century could become a self-made millionairess then there is no legitimate reason why blacks can't go to school instead of dropping out or squandering the educational opportunities they do have.
    yeah...the lack of education excuse is just another cop-out. I went to one of the poorest high schools in one of the poorest counties in the state of alabama (the english teacher was the same lady who taught math and there was only one science teacher for the whole school ) and that didn't stop me from going to college and getting a degree. that didn't stop many of my black classmates from going to college and getting degrees.

    crying that because you attended some ****ty inner city school you never had a chance is just plain BS.
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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by dnsmith View Post
    I spent 27 years in the Army and your description is very accurate. Skin color is not a deterrent, not really in civilian society either. I have now been retired almost 25 years (come Feb) and in the south I see successful blacks as well. One of the biggest problems I have seen in the success of black men is the chip they seem to wear on their shoulder. Of course in the urban areas of the large northern cities that may not be true. I am sure the situation is exaggerated on TV, at least I hope it is. Otherwise it is time for them to come home to the south where the social climate is better.
    funny that in the south (where every white person is apparently a flaming racist) there seems to be no shortage of successful blacks. I work for a govt contractor and several of the guys in our upper management are black. In my little backwoods county there are black cops, judges, politicians, doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc.

    that's why I always shake my head and wonder just where the hell this horribly racist america is that people are always complaining about.
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