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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman
    Blacks and other minorities that use 200 year old excuses will continue to fail in society today.
    I think the point is that the causes are present and ongoing. What happened 200 years ago (I'm not sure I get the reason for 200 years, but I'll play along) has an effect today. Those effects become causes themselves. That's one way to state the whole point of keeping history in the first place--the recognition that the past matters to, and shapes, the present. Most people do not engage consciously with history, but that doesn't matter to determining the effects that the past has on those people.

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    I think the point is that the causes are present and ongoing. What happened 200 years ago (I'm not sure I get the reason for 200 years, but I'll play along) has an effect today. Those effects become causes themselves. That's one way to state the whole point of keeping history in the first place--the recognition that the past matters to, and shapes, the present. Most people do not engage consciously with history, but that doesn't matter to determining the effects that the past has on those people.
    We as a society are enabling minorties to fail where they might succeed if we said shut up with the same lame excuse comes out of their mouth.

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    White people NEVER forget that with black people, it's always racial.

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    In a thread calling a black guy a racist then saying this sweeping generalization about all blacks... holy hell this is ... weird.
    No..not weird...they have no history...so they are inventing one..

    I don't remember saying all black people were like this..

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman
    We as a society are enabling minorties to fail where they might succeed if we said shut up with the same lame excuse comes out of their mouth.
    So, it helps a rape victim get over their abuse when we tell them to shut up and get over the violation? It helps a family who has had a loved-one murdered when we tell them all their moping about and their cries for justice are just a bunch of lame excuses? I mean, c'mon...multiply those crimes and others both worse and less severe, by millions and millions over a long period of time. There's really no way to redress that kind of wrong-doing.

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    White people NEVER forget that with black people, it's always racial.
    Annoying isn't it..they just won't get rid of that big chip on their shoulders..no matter what you do..

    When I was supervising people in a factory we had a load of black agency people...

    I had to tell this one lady time and time again to do the simplest job...after failing to put the pie covers over the pies for the hundredth time..I said to her..''Look I know it is a boring job I will change you round in an hour...after several alerts from the bakehouse that some pies had no crusts..half a crust..etc I went to see her again..she said ''are you bullying me because I'm black?'' I said ''No..it's because you're crap!!''

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

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    I think anyone who takes a reasonable and unbiased view of history would see that resentment is quite justified and therefore excusable.
    No.. Its not.

    A 25 year old black person has not experienced any of this stuff.... has just as many opportunities available to them (more so when you consider affirmative action and minority scholarships) as anyone else in most locations in the country.....so I fail to see why we should ENCOURAGE someone's racial resentment by claiming it is excusable.

    Get the **** over it, it didn't directly affect you. (yes, I know what comes next, the claim that all their ancestors work wasn't given to them , blah blah, they are poor. white people are poor and make it in society with the same opportunities so stfu with that bull****).



    I believe I've already named them, but I will again: centuries of being kidnapped and sold into slavery in nearly unfathomably cruel conditions,
    Which the standard 25 year old black person didn't experience.....so it only affects them if they so choose for it to do so.
    followed by decades of legally sanctioned racism.
    which the 25 year old black person didn't experience..... so it only affects them if they so choose for it to do so.
    All of that sounds incredibly sterile when described that way; you have to give consideration to what it would be like for a human being to experience that sort of treatment, and for generations of human beings in a population to experience such treatment.
    Which only the oldest generations of either retired or soon to retire people in society experienced........


    Shall I be excused to hate people because of what my Irish ancestors went through?


    I don't ****ing think so.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    I think the point is that the causes are present and ongoing. What happened 200 years ago (I'm not sure I get the reason for 200 years, but I'll play along) has an effect today. Those effects become causes themselves. That's one way to state the whole point of keeping history in the first place--the recognition that the past matters to, and shapes, the present. Most people do not engage consciously with history, but that doesn't matter to determining the effects that the past has on those people.
    All this pschobabble makes absolutely no sense... you are talking in circles......

    Are you one of those people who thinks that if your message "sounds deep" people will just take it at face value?
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    So, it helps a rape victim get over their abuse when we tell them to shut up and get over the violation?
    ****ty analogy....

    More appropriate would be..... If a rape victim's great granddaughter.........

    It helps a family who has had a loved-one murdered when we tell them all their moping about and their cries for justice are just a bunch of lame excuses?
    ****ty analogy..... More appropriate would be..... If a family who has had a loved-one murdered in the previous generation of the family.......

    I mean, c'mon...multiply those crimes and others both worse and less severe, by millions and millions over a long period of time. There's really no way to redress that kind of wrong-doing.
    You are applying the past injustices and acting as if the current generation has experienced it first hand.
    "I condemn the ideology of White Supremacy and Nazism. They are thugs, criminals, and repugnant, and are against what I believe to be "The American Way" "
    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    So, it helps a rape victim get over their abuse when we tell them to shut up and get over the violation? It helps a family who has had a loved-one murdered when we tell them all their moping about and their cries for justice are just a bunch of lame excuses? I mean, c'mon...multiply those crimes and others both worse and less severe, by millions and millions over a long period of time. There's really no way to redress that kind of wrong-doing.
    Are you drunk? no one said anything about the crap you posted above. damn

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