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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You can end it now, would not bother me one bit. I mean really first...

    You accuse me of saying something I did not...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061256057

    Than you get an attitude because I was indeed correct and you admitted it.

    You can take your attitude and leave, I am cool with that.
    Just to end the score. The link you put sends to this comment:
    "That is not the issue. You asked for an example where whites are being abused, killed and disowned by the government which they also support and in a country in which they are equal citizens as the others. before the apartheid ended, blacks were lacking certain rights.

    So in other words. If 2 men are equal citizens under the law, one black and one white, there is no reason for one citizen to get away with with murder if he kills a white man.

    But if there are 2 men who are not equal under the law, then the dynamic changes. As long as one is not covered by the rights that the other has, there is no illegality. It may be immoral... but there is no illegality. So the fact that blacks weren't allowed to enter certain public offices in south africa during apartheid, no laws were broken. So there is no law that punishes people for not letting blacks be part of government. It is immoral, certainly, but law has nothing to do with morality. but once apartheid fell, such actions would be criminal and prosecuted under the law.

    Got it? There are differences and they matter. And there is no excuse for the mass killings and abuses decent white people in south africa, who weren't part of the ruling elite, to suffer what they did. Because they were the ones who suffered. Most of the ones who were part of the ruling class either fled the country or were granted special privileges... or were put in prison. But the down to earth white man, who had his family and minded his own business, living in accordance to the law, shouldn't have had to pay the price because some blacks decided that all that white man had, wasn't his ,despite the fact that he owned it. Legally, morally and any other way you want."

    Where have I accused you of doing something? I hadn't. And I never said you were correct, only that you were a joke of a debater. And that seems to be the truth since you said I accused you of something in this comment... where as... I hadn't.

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    An excuse to criticize Foxx at best. How many times has a 'conservative' reminded the rest of us that actors and comedians are just playing a part. We shouldn't believe the part they play is the real person. I suppose any actor portraying a stereotype can't criticize society continuing to feed that stereotype to the PERSON? Carroll O'Connor can't criticize bigoted white men. Rod Steiger can't criticize the segregationist South because he won national fame as an 'old school' southern sheriff? No 'villain' can criticize violence?

    Weak Tea at best...
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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Since when was Jamie Foxx a "left wing hero?" What liberal causes has he championed, exactly?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Just to end the score. The link you put sends to this comment:
    "That is not the issue. You asked for an example where whites are being abused, killed and disowned by the government which they also support and in a country in which they are equal citizens as the others. before the apartheid ended, blacks were lacking certain rights.
    Again no I did not. I did not ask you anything. I said it was a piss poor example, and it was.

    You took a comment from a post by Cilogy...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061254319

    You took one sentacne out of his entire post and attributed it to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    So in other words. If 2 men are equal citizens under the law, one black and one white, there is no reason for one citizen to get away with with murder if he kills a white man.

    But if there are 2 men who are not equal under the law, then the dynamic changes. As long as one is not covered by the rights that the other has, there is no illegality. It may be immoral... but there is no illegality. So the fact that blacks weren't allowed to enter certain public offices in south africa during apartheid, no laws were broken. So there is no law that punishes people for not letting blacks be part of government. It is immoral, certainly, but law has nothing to do with morality. but once apartheid fell, such actions would be criminal and prosecuted under the law.

    Got it? There are differences and they matter. And there is no excuse for the mass killings and abuses decent white people in south africa, who weren't part of the ruling elite, to suffer what they did. Because they were the ones who suffered. Most of the ones who were part of the ruling class either fled the country or were granted special privileges... or were put in prison. But the down to earth white man, who had his family and minded his own business, living in accordance to the law, shouldn't have had to pay the price because some blacks decided that all that white man had, wasn't his ,despite the fact that he owned it. Legally, morally and any other way you want."

    Where have I accused you of doing something? I hadn't. And I never said you were correct, only that you were a joke of a debater. And that seems to be the truth since you said I accused you of something in this comment... where as... I hadn't.
    Why don't you actually follow the links.

    The only joke here is your misunderstanding.
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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Again no I did not. I did not ask you anything. I said it was a piss poor example, and it was.

    You took a comment from a post by Cilogy...

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061254319

    You took one sentacne out of his entire post and attributed it to me.

    Why don't you actually follow the links.

    The only joke here is your misunderstanding.
    Joke is on you. This is the link from your original comment.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061256057

    This is the link you gave now.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061254319

    post1061256057 vs post1061254319

    See. You can't even frame a person right.

    This is so embarrassing for you. So, so embarrassing.

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Joke is on you. This is the link from your original comment.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061256057

    This is the link you gave now.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1061254319

    post1061256057 vs post1061254319

    See. You can't even frame a person right.

    This is so embarrassing for you. So, so embarrassing.
    I wish you were kidding. This really is not rocket science.

    I linked to my first post because that was my first comment to you...

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Considering the way blacks were treated for how long? That is a piss poor example.
    It was to the comment you made here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    South Africa. Whites were killed in droves for their property. You know, the property that is supposed to be theirs by right.
    Which was (as I said) your reply to one sentence in someone else's post here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    If two kids were to pursue the same path with the same resources, the black kid is more likely come across obstacles than the white kid. It sucks, and we need to do as much as we can to remove those obstacles, but that's unfortunately how it is, even 50 years after civil rights movements.


    Because they don't. The system is already sort of fixed in favor of the straight, white, wealthy male.

    Generally, a white person can willingly put themselves in a situation where they are victims of racial discrimination, but they can also willingly remove themselves from that. I don't fault them for that, nor blame them, that's sort of where "white guilt" comes from, which is something that's been fabricated by the left to deal with racism. However, I think it's important that white people understand that they have a certain privilege that other groups of people do not.

    I haven't come across a situation in which a white person experiences racism for their entire life the way a black person might, can you give me an example so I understand?
    I think we are done here.

    PS a great example would have been Catholics in Ireland. You missed that as well.
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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    I love blackdog... I really do..... but he has provided me with an excellent example.....
    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I wish I had seen this earlier.

    His comments are not far from the truth. As a black man we are under a stigma. I have watched people cross the street because they are scared. My wife and daughter were refused an upgraded room on the basis of the racist counter clerk. I mean people can say it is not that prevalent, but it is. It is just harder to notice because people keep it under raps for fear of reprisals.
    Did the person who crossed the street say, "Im crossing the street because I don't want that negro near me!"

    No? Then how do you know they didn't just realize that they needed to be on the other side of the street soon because their location was on the other side?

    Did the hotel clerk say, "Im not giving you negros an upgrade because I don't like you."

    No?

    How do you know the hotel upgrade had ANYTHING to do with the race of your wife and daughter?

    Are you jumping to the conclusion that the person was racist without any evidence whatsoever? Its okay if you are, it seems to be the norm in society. I mean, hell, I should know, as a cop who is accused of racism on a regular basis by complete strangers who have only heard me say, "Good evening, can I see your license and registration please".


    In fact I agree with him. I notice little things like the Chicago Fireman in my scuba class who is friendly to everyone but me. Would not even talk to me if he could avoid it.
    Ever think maybe there is a different reason why he isn't friendly to you? I was friendly with everyone on my shift except the much older veteran white cop. It wasn't because I hate veteran old white cops, it was because the way he presented himself as a grumpy, unfriendly, hateful old man I didn't want anything to do with him, until I had to go on a long domestic one night and got to know him better.
    The cop who stopped me and searched my bag for not other reason than I was walking down the street coming form work in the early morning.
    This is true. Cops check people out who are walking down the street. Do you realize how many "Suspicious Person" calls we get from people about other people walking down the street early in the morning? What makes you assume the police officer was racist rather than just doing his damned job. Did he say anything specific? Did he say, "Hey nigger, I know you got **** in your bag im going to search it because you are a thief just like all black people" ? No? Okay.

    These are things most white people don't see or have to put up with. Getting pulled over constantly because I was driving a Conquest Tsi and black. No other reason to pull me over, none.
    Okay. You realize how many black violators who clearly were violating a law before being pulled over claimed they had no reason to be pulled over? Hell white people claim I pulled them over for no reason all the time too. The only difference is that white people don't have the racism excuse. And to be honest..... neither does a black dude at 3am going 60mph in a non-lighted roadway.

    Oh wait... Of course, I set my radar to black people that night.
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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Considering the way blacks were treated for how long? That is a piss poor example.
    Two wrongs make a right?

    I don't ****ing think so.
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    Thus my obligatory condemnation of White supremacy will now be in every post, lest I be accused of supporting it because I didn't mention it specifically every time I post.

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by DiavoTheMiavo View Post
    Nope . . . you are an Uncle Tomahito.
    So, if you think your own race is superior you are a racist, but if you think another race is superior then you are an Uncle Tom? Hmm.......

    Hate to tell you, but all races are not equal. Some are far more equal than others in terms of certain skills. And some are far more compromised in terms of illnesses and disease, example sickle cell anemia.
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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Two wrongs make a right?

    I don't ****ing think so.
    The SCOTUS justified affirmative action as a means to 'right past wrongs.'
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