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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I wish I had seen this earlier.

    His comments are not far from the truth. As a black man we are under a stigma. I have watched people cross the street because they are scared. My wife and daughter were refused an upgraded room on the basis of the racist counter clerk. I mean people can say it is not that prevalent, but it is. It is just harder to notice because people keep it under raps for fear of reprisals.

    In fact I agree with him. I notice little things like the Chicago Fireman in my scuba class who is friendly to everyone but me. Would not even talk to me if he could avoid it. The cop who stopped me and searched my bag for not other reason than I was walking down the street coming form work in the early morning. These are things most white people don't see or have to put up with. Getting pulled over constantly because I was driving a Conquest Tsi and black. No other reason to pull me over, none. In a conversation with Mac he brought up the constant stupid questions like "why do blacks do "insert stupid stereo type" from white friends and acquaintances. They don't mean to be insulting, but it is. Hell I have friends on Facebook from childhood who make comments like "you are black? when did this happen" and similar jokes because I don't speak Ebonics or listen to rap. They are just being funny and think it's a joke. They have no idea how insulting it actually is. Like the music I listen to defines me as a person.

    You can say it's racist all you want, but it's not. It is just an unfortunate stigma that black males deal with our entire lives here in the good old USA.

    If you think that is racist, well hehehe **** you and the horse you road in on.
    You didn't read the article. First he runs around acting white or acting black, then he makes his living off of acting the stereotype. He bitches and perpetuates it. Bitches about fried chicken, well I happen to like it.
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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Cilogy View Post
    I haven't come across a situation in which a white person experiences racism for their entire life the way a black person might, can you give me an example so I understand?
    South Africa. Whites were killed in droves for their property. You know, the property that is supposed to be theirs by right.

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    South Africa. Whites were killed in droves for their property. You know, the property that is supposed to be theirs by right.
    Considering the way blacks were treated for how long? That is a piss poor example.
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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You didn't read the article. First he runs around acting white or acting black, then he makes his living off of acting the stereotype. He bitches and perpetuates it. Bitches about fried chicken, well I happen to like it.
    That has little to do with why I agree. Society created the stereotypes he plays, not him. He makes a living doing it. This makes it no less a problem I and other black men deal with on a daily bases. It sucks but I choose not to whine about it for the most part, but that does not mean it is not there. I mean racism comes from all sides no matter what color you are. The difference is black men have a societal stigma attached to us we can't seem to shake. It follows us around like a thick could and is forever present. It makes it hard sometimes to tell what is racist and what was simply human nature or even a simple mistake.

    It sucks man, really. Like I said though, I don't worry about it to much. I am comfortable in my own skin and know their is nothing you can't do here in the US if you put your mind to it. Racism is no excuse for failure. This does not mean it's not here or that we don't feel it.
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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You didn't read the article. First he runs around acting white or acting black, then he makes his living off of acting the stereotype. He bitches and perpetuates it. Bitches about fried chicken, well I happen to like it.
    That has little to do with why I agree. Society created the stereotypes he plays, not him. He makes a living doing it. This makes it no less a problem I and other black men deal with on a daily bases. It sucks but I choose not to whine about it for the most part, but that does not mean it is not there. I mean racism comes from all sides no matter what color you are. The difference is black men have a societal stigma attached to us we can't seem to shake. It follows us around like a thick could and is forever present. It makes it hard sometimes to tell what is racist and what was simply human nature or even a simple mistake.

    It sucks man, really. Like I said though, I don't worry about it to much. I am comfortable in my own skin and know their is nothing you can't do here in the US if you put your mind to it. Racism is no excuse for failure. This does not mean it's not here or that we don't feel it.
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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Considering the way blacks were treated for how long? That is a piss poor example.
    That is not the issue. You asked for an example where whites are being abused, killed and disowned by the government which they also support and in a country in which they are equal citizens as the others. before the apartheid ended, blacks were lacking certain rights.

    So in other words. If 2 men are equal citizens under the law, one black and one white, there is no reason for one citizen to get away with with murder if he kills a white man.

    But if there are 2 men who are not equal under the law, then the dynamic changes. As long as one is not covered by the rights that the other has, there is no illegality. It may be immoral... but there is no illegality. So the fact that blacks weren't allowed to enter certain public offices in south africa during apartheid, no laws were broken. So there is no law that punishes people for not letting blacks be part of government. It is immoral, certainly, but law has nothing to do with morality. but once apartheid fell, such actions would be criminal and prosecuted under the law.

    Got it? There are differences and they matter. And there is no excuse for the mass killings and abuses decent white people in south africa, who weren't part of the ruling elite, to suffer what they did. Because they were the ones who suffered. Most of the ones who were part of the ruling class either fled the country or were granted special privileges... or were put in prison. But the down to earth white man, who had his family and minded his own business, living in accordance to the law, shouldn't have had to pay the price because some blacks decided that all that white man had, wasn't his ,despite the fact that he owned it. Legally, morally and any other way you want.

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    That is not the issue. You asked for an example where whites are being abused, killed and disowned by the government which they also support and in a country in which they are equal citizens as the others. before the apartheid ended, blacks were lacking certain rights.
    No I did not. And lacking in certain rights? Lacking in certain rights? Is that a nice way of saying being imprisoned unfairly, refused equal education, housing etc? I mean come on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    So in other words. If 2 men are equal citizens under the law, one black and one white, there is no reason for one citizen to get away with with murder if he kills a white man.
    I agree no matter how much in the case of South Africa, revenge was to be expected.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    But if there are 2 men who are not equal under the law, then the dynamic changes. As long as one is not covered by the rights that the other has, there is no illegality. It may be immoral... but there is no illegality.
    May be immoral? lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    So the fact that blacks weren't allowed to enter certain public offices in south africa during apartheid, no laws were broken. So there is no law that punishes people for not letting blacks be part of government. It is immoral, certainly, but law has nothing to do with morality. but once apartheid fell, such actions would be criminal and prosecuted under the law.
    That is a bull**** excuse for supporting institutionalized racism, nothing more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Got it?
    Yep and since I did not ask you ****, I will say again...

    Piss poor example.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    There are differences and they matter. And there is no excuse for the mass killings and abuses decent white people in south africa, who weren't part of the ruling elite, to suffer what they did.
    I agree. It is however a fact of life they would want revenge for YEARS of a brutal regime that treated them like second class citizens which included murder etc. So in this case the law could kiss there black asses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Because they were the ones who suffered. Most of the ones who were part of the ruling class either fled the country or were granted special privileges... or were put in prison. But the down to earth white man, who had his family and minded his own business, living in accordance to the law, shouldn't have had to pay the price because some blacks decided that all that white man had, wasn't his ,despite the fact that he owned it. Legally, morally and any other way you want.
    I agree. Again this is a piss poor example as it should have been expected. It is unrealistic and silly to think this was not going to happen.

    PS those whites did not experience anything like the blacks their whole lives, period.
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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    No I did not. And lacking in certain rights? Lacking in certain rights? Is that a nice way of saying being imprisoned unfairly, refused equal education, housing etc? I mean come on.

    I agree no matter how much in the case of South Africa, revenge was to be expected.

    May be immoral? lol.

    That is a bull**** excuse for supporting institutionalized racism, nothing more.

    Yep and since I did not ask you ****, I will say again...

    Piss poor example.

    I agree. It is however a fact of life they would want revenge for YEARS of a brutal regime that treated them like second class citizens which included murder etc. So in this case the law could kiss there black asses.

    I agree. Again this is a piss poor example as it should have been expected. It is unrealistic and silly to think this was not going to happen.

    PS those whites did not experience anything like the blacks their whole lives, period.

    Ok. Well, not my fault there no great african civilizations that could stand the test of time.
    But there are plenty of other examples in the world.

    In India, you had the Murghal Empire in the XVIIIth century.

    Today in Tibet, under Chinesse rule.

    And many more examples of actual institutionalized racism in history and the world.

    However, the US is not on that list as is no western nation and hasn't been, for the most part, for almost 2 centuries in Europe and decades in the US.

    However, you seem hell bent on discovering racism everywhere and putting everything on it. Fine. I gave a reply to such a mentality several times on this forum and I will pose to you the same answer if you are willing to believe all this nonsense about racism in the US. This is the comment:
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    Some people keep on holding that torch that says that blacks are underpriviledged and the victims of racism, especially from white males and all those fake, bull**** stereotypes. The white man holding down the black man where as that just isn't true.

    There are black congressmen(and even the president). There are black CEOs (i.e. the CEO of Mcdonalds is a black man). There are black movie stars and millionaires and billionaires and everything. So do tell me how come there is still racism?

    You know what is racist? Eric Holder refusing to put the black panther party on trial because it would denigrate "his people". That is real racism right there.

    You know what else is racist? The KKK in the 1930's.
    You know what else is racist? The fact that in California, mexicans and blacks are the most violent crime victims of each other. That means that blacks get killed mostly by mexicans in violent crimes and viceversa.

    You know what else is racist? Claiming that racism is influencing every aspect of your life and you encounter it keeping you down every day despite living in showbis, the most liberal environment in the ENTIRE world. The ENTIRE world.

    With this in mind, I would like to make the following proposition.

    Given the following evidence.

    A) There are prominent blacks in all aspects of public life (government, congress, etc)
    B) There are prominent blacks in all aspect of intellectual life (thomas sowell, Neil degrasse tyson, the most popular ones)
    C) There are prominent blacks in sports (you name it)
    D) There are prominent blacks in business (CEO of Mcdonalds and Xerox-> its even a black woman)
    E) There are prominent blacks in showbis, the most liberal environemnt in the world.
    F) Everywhere in general... you can find prominent blacks

    And yet, despite all these things being TRUE, there is still racism, and racism is in fact a MAJOR problem in the world, even in the MOST LIBERAL PLACE in the world, then the only logical conclusion to derive from this is the following: That racism is part and parcel of human nature. In fact, it is impossible to be human without being a racist, and this is equally valid for all races. In fact, it is inhumane to not be a racist because despite even the most equalitarian ideologies being shoved down people's throats in all aspects of life, racism still prevails even in the most heavily influenced areas of those ideologies. Therefore, racism is above everything in power and can NEVER be removed from humanity and therefore it will always be there as a staple, as the essence of what it means to be a human.
    Again, this is only if all above are TRUE, which they are.

    If you do not want the above theorem to be valid, then we just have to agree that Jamie Foxxx, like many others, are just stupid racists.
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    Do reply to it, especially the latter part with the A B C D E F statements and the logical conclusion that follows.

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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Ok. Well, not my fault there no great african civilizations that could stand the test of time.
    But there are plenty of other examples in the world.
    Well colonialism sort of cut that off before they even had the chance. It also destroyed the great West African nations that were on that path. Not that this is somehow your fault?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    In India, you had the Murghal Empire in the XVIIIth century.

    Today in Tibet, under Chinesse rule.

    And many more examples of actual institutionalized racism in history and the world.

    However, the US is not on that list as is no western nation and hasn't been, for the most part, for almost 2 centuries in Europe and decades in the US.

    However, you seem hell bent on discovering racism everywhere and putting everything on it. Fine. I gave a reply to such a mentality several times on this forum and I will pose to you the same answer if you are willing to believe all this nonsense about racism in the US. This is the comment:
    What? Slavery in the US was abolished in 1865, only 147 years ago. Now lets add in the Jim crow years and the fight for equality or civil rights movement and you are talking within my lifetime or less than 50 years ago. So I can honestly say that statement is utter blind bull****.

    Then you talk about I see it in everything? WTF? That is an asinine statement. I did however grow up in it, what the hell do you know about it? What did you do read a newspaper? Or did you get an official announcement? I mean yes I do see it, but not in everything. Nice hyperbole.

    You walk into an office and you see nothing but white men, a couple of women in all the side offices. Then you look at the cubicles in the middle and it's all Indians, Pakistanis, females and blacks. With black men being the least represented. You tell me what am I supposed to think? When I go to an interview after talking to the person on the phone, and they say "Oh! You didn't sound black over the phone." You tell me? What am I supposed to think.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
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    Some people keep on holding that torch that says that blacks are underpriviledged and the victims of racism, especially from white males and all those fake, bull**** stereotypes. The white man holding down the black man where as that just isn't true.
    Yes that's true. Which is why I said...

    I am comfortable in my own skin and know their is nothing you can't do here in the US if you put your mind to it. Racism is no excuse for failure. - Blackdog

    So don't even think about casting me in any such light.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    There are black congressmen(and even the president). There are black CEOs (i.e. the CEO of Mcdonalds is a black man). There are black movie stars and millionaires and billionaires and everything. So do tell me how come there is still racism?
    You have got to be kidding? We elected a black president! Racism ended officially 4 and a half years ago! You mite want to inform all those people that called the president a nigger and said we need to get rid of the nigger in the white house and tell them racism no longer exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    You know what is racist? Eric Holder refusing to put the black panther party on trial because it would denigrate "his people". That is real racism right there.
    Yes it is. Has nothing to do with anything I said, but yes I think it was racially motivated. I mean hell there are plenty of racist black people. The whole Zimmerman thing should be proof of that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    You know what else is racist? The KKK in the 1930's.
    You know what else is racist? The fact that in California, mexicans and blacks are the most violent crime victims of each other. That means that blacks get killed mostly by mexicans in violent crimes and viceversa.
    So what? Again has nothing to do with anything I aid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    You know what else is racist? Claiming that racism is influencing every aspect of your life and you encounter it keeping you down every day despite living in showbis, the most liberal environment in the ENTIRE world. The ENTIRE world.
    Ummmm no place in the article did he say anything about anything keeping him down and niether did I. You seem to be the one with a chip on your shoulder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    With this in mind, I would like to make the following proposition.

    Given the following evidence.

    A) There are prominent blacks in all aspects of public life (government, congress, etc)
    B) There are prominent blacks in all aspect of intellectual life (thomas sowell, Neil degrasse tyson, the most popular ones)
    C) There are prominent blacks in sports (you name it)
    D) There are prominent blacks in business (CEO of Mcdonalds and Xerox-> its even a black woman)
    E) There are prominent blacks in showbis, the most liberal environemnt in the world.
    F) Everywhere in general... you can find prominent blacks

    And yet, despite all these things being TRUE, there is still racism, and racism is in fact a MAJOR problem in the world, even in the MOST LIBERAL PLACE in the world, then the only logical conclusion to derive from this is the following: That racism is part and parcel of human nature. In fact, it is impossible to be human without being a racist, and this is equally valid for all races. In fact, it is inhumane to not be a racist because despite even the most equalitarian ideologies being shoved down people's throats in all aspects of life, racism still prevails even in the most heavily influenced areas of those ideologies. Therefore, racism is above everything in power and can NEVER be removed from humanity and therefore it will always be there as a staple, as the essence of what it means to be a human.
    Again, this is only if all above are TRUE, which they are.

    If you do not want the above theorem to be valid, then we just have to agree that Jamie Foxxx, like many others, are just stupid racists.
    Total unadulterated bull****. No, you are completely wrong. Just because blacks are represented in something it has no correlation to, or on racism at all. I mean seriously it has gotten better, but it has not gone away. You seem to think that all of a sudden because a black man is successful, all racism must be gone. Well I tell you what, I want some of what you are smoking.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Do reply to it, especially the latter part with the A B C D E F statements and the logical conclusion that follows.
    Nothing logical about that fallacy leap at all, nothing.
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    Re: 'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    1)Well colonialism sort of cut that off before they even had the chance. It also destroyed the great West African nations that were on that path. Not that this is somehow your fault?



    2)What? Slavery in the US was abolished in 1865, only 147 years ago. Now lets add in the Jim crow years and the fight for equality or civil rights movement and you are talking within my lifetime or less than 50 years ago. So I can honestly say that statement is utter blind bull****.

    3)Then you talk about I see it in everything? WTF? That is an asinine statement. I did however grow up in it, what the hell do you know about it? What did you do read a newspaper? Or did you get an official announcement? I mean yes I do see it, but not in everything. Nice hyperbole.

    You walk into an office and you see nothing but white men, a couple of women in all the side offices. Then you look at the cubicles in the middle and it's all Indians, Pakistanis, females and blacks. With black men being the least represented. You tell me what am I supposed to think? When I go to an interview after talking to the person on the phone, and they say "Oh! You didn't sound black over the phone." You tell me? What am I supposed to think.

    4)Yes that's true. Which is why I said...

    I am comfortable in my own skin and know their is nothing you can't do here in the US if you put your mind to it. Racism is no excuse for failure. - Blackdog

    So don't even think about casting me in any such light.

    5)You have got to be kidding? We elected a black president! Racism ended officially 4 and a half years ago! You mite want to inform all those people that called the president a nigger and said we need to get rid of the nigger in the white house and tell them racism no longer exists.

    6)Yes it is. Has nothing to do with anything I said, but yes I think it was racially motivated. I mean hell there are plenty of racist black people. The whole Zimmerman thing should be proof of that.

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    7)
    Total unadulterated bull****. No, you are completely wrong. Just because blacks are represented in something it has no correlation to, or on racism at all. I mean seriously it has gotten better, but it has not gone away. You seem to think that all of a sudden because a black man is successful, all racism must be gone. Well I tell you what, I want some of what you are smoking.

    Nothing logical about that fallacy leap at all, nothing.
    1) there were parts of Africa where people hadn't invented the wheel yet. Yes, there were countries in west africa which grew rich through the slave trade. African kings and warlords were the foremost players in the slave trade, providing the "merchandise" in massive numbers in order to acquire wealth to fund their armies which in turn, would raid more and make more slaves.

    2) Yes. Well, European nations which had slavery had abolished it a few decades before that which is why I said, almost 2 centuries. And thanks to the colonial empires of some European nations, slavery was ended almost worldwide. The civil rights movement in the USA was a long time coming, but blacks were represented in Congress and had men who could make laws. It is an equal failure on both the sides of the black community and the white community in the US that only in the 1960's had true equal rights been observed for the black minority. But lets not forget that even before the black civil liberation movement, there were organization that fought for blacks, like the NAACP which was founded decades before MLK Jr started his legacy.

    3) think what you will. NAACP, affirmative action... they exist. You have no argument there. In my opinion, there is no reason why companies should cater to racial groups in the first place.

    4) More on this later, point 7). You can either accept that racism is mostly BS on institutional level and that all the crybabies on TV complaining about racism in every day of their lives about how racism messes with every single thing in their lives... from photoshoots (article) to how they have to act around white people.

    Also, this isn't about you.

    5) More on this on point 7), your objections are noted and will be addressed there.

    6) yep. so, this is the end of this point.

    7) OK. So I had this conversation with others before and therefore, you are either refusing to think about what I wrote, or you are just too stubborn.

    Lets see.

    Despite the fact that these statements are true
    A) There are prominent blacks in all aspects of public life (government, congress, etc)
    B) There are prominent blacks in all aspect of intellectual life (thomas sowell, Neil degrasse tyson, the most popular ones)
    C) There are prominent blacks in sports (you name it)
    D) There are prominent blacks in business (CEO of Mcdonalds and Xerox-> its even a black woman)
    E) There are prominent blacks in showbis, the most liberal environemnt in the world.
    F) Everywhere in general... you can find prominent blacks
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    G) Despite the fact that there are huge penalties for a person who displays racism (you can lose your job), people still display racist attitudes and take on the stigma which haunts people for ages. An example is even with the most loved of people, Ron Paul, was hounded by statements that were considered racist from over 30 years ago. This stigma never leaves you and there are huge consequences.
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    Because they are. You cannot question the reality that these statements are true.

    Yet we have evidence of racism everywhere. You pointed the example where those people posted on twitter to get then nigger out of office. Great. This is another example that just goes enforces the theory I presented in the above statement, which is G)

    Therefore. If all statements above are true, which they are... then the only logical conclusion is the one i made.

    That in fact, racism is a deep part of what it means to be a human. It is embedded so deep in our DNA that like any other natural thing we feel, hunger, cold, etc, it cannot be suppressed no matter how much ideology and public pressure there is. Therefore, attacking racism is in fact attacking the very essence of humanity. It is like blaming people because they get hungry or cold. No different. Otherwise, if it race were a "social construct", it could be destroyed by social means.

    It is no different then bootlegging was in the 1920's with alcohol prohibition. A lot of people became bootleggers back then because there was such a demand. The social construct called "alcohol smuggler" was created and to fight it, you had prohibition agents. But once you abolished prohibition, there was no incentive to do smuggling of alcohol and the social construct known as "alcohol smuggler" ended and so did the fight against it.

    So, in the past, when racism wasn't penalized, the social construct of "race' was beneficial to people and there was incentive to keep it. But now, because "racist" is such a detrimental stigma on a person, there should be no more incentive to be a racist and hence, the social construct should no longer exist. And racism should no longer exist... if it is a social construct... and add to that the fact that the world we live in, the mindset, the ideology is very strong AGAINST racism. Therefore, since racism still exists, we must accept that it is a force STRONGER than any ideology and it is NOT a social construct. And the only thing that can explain this is that it is part and parcel of human nature. that it is in fact crucial... or a vital part of humanity that it cannot be ignore, repressed or supressed for long periods of time because it will arise despite being penalized for showing racism. Just like you can starve yourself in time, racism can also be held donw... controlled. but because it is such a powerful part of humanity, it will always rise up and take hold.

    Therefore, if you agree with the notion that there is still racism, again, despite EVERYTHING being against it, then we must accept that racism is part of us and can NEVER be diminished or destroyed under the current circumstances. And to fight against racism or to condemn racism is actually to condemn the very core humanity. All humanity.

    So what will your stance be.

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