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'As a black person it's always racial': Django Unchained star Jamie Foxx explains why

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clownboy said:
Where do you live? I'm not denying your experience, it's just that the only time I've heard that word used in anything other than legitimate discussions about racism or the movies has been from the mouths of urban black youths (at least in the last couple decades).

But then I've lived in the Western states during that time.
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I live in a once "Lilly White" sort of rural suburb of Chicago. A few years back the Chicago Housing Authority started knocking down the "Projects" for gentrification. Our area got a lot of those folks in the move. Throw in all "Spics" and "Wetbacks" when added to these "Niggers" in the neighborhood and you have some very upset white people. I know it must be hard to believe, but when I go to the VFW and hear about the "Niggers and Spics" ruining everything, all I can do is leave. Oh, I might make a few sarcastic comments they don't get, but I cannot deal with that crap.

Here at the DP the racism is much more subtle . . . but it's here and every white person still believing they are better than blacks know it. You know how I know racism exists? Ask a white person this question; If you had a choice, would you rather be white or black? I see it everyday and I don't live in Idaho.
 
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clownboy said:
Huh? No one seriously thinks the word was just coined, but it was on it's way out of the lexicon.
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Lolz. This is laughable at best.
 
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radcen said:
Maybe the rest of society has been conditioned to be over-sensitive in it's own right.

Ever hear the story about the boy who cried wolf?
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Ever hear of saying something irrelevant and random instead of just admitting that you didn't catch the humor?
 
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wolfie said:
I am totally sick of Black people and ''you took us from Africa to make us your slaves'' It was 200 years ago..we have paid ten-fold..
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What have you paid?

Two hundred years ago...white people were slaves in Britain..children sent up chimneys...agricultural workers living in hedges..and when society had finished with you..there were always the workhouses..
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Who said anything about slavery?

We send Billions of pounds to Africa..and yet our students take gap years to dig latrines and fresh water wells..

It goes to the warlords of Africa,,the poor don't see a dime..

Our government has promised Africa £34 million next year..is it for the poor..or is it to grease palms??
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Jamie Fox is American....not African.
 
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Cilogy said:
Realistically, has any negative word in history successfully made it out of the lexicon? Why should it? It's just a word, intent matters more.
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Yeah, there are number of them from my youth that are rarely uttered anymore. They're still largely banned on television and in the media in general (unlike the word at discussion here). For example, when was the last time you heard "kike" used on TV or in the media, or even in general conversation?
 
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clownboy said:
Huh? No one seriously thinks the word was just coined, but it was on it's way out of the lexicon. The word had gained a rep of being so nasty and hateful anyone who uttered it was looked upon with disdain. UNTIL some maroon thought co-opting the word would "empower" black folks.

Since then the word came back into the language with a "legitimate" use. Sad really.
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It is a word that originated from slavery. It's still here. 21-scoodoo popular now? What's sad isn't mentioned here . . . but it should be.
 
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DiavoTheMiavo said:
It is a word that originated from slavery. It's still here. 21-scoodoo popular now? What's sad isn't mentioned here . . . but it should be.
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Thanks for proving my point - it's 23 skidoo. :mrgreen:
 
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clownboy said:
Thanks for proving my point - it's 23 skidoo. :mrgreen:
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Yeah . . . in your world I proved your point. God . . . it's like there is a Bizarro World on planet Earth.
 
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Cilogy said:
If two kids were to pursue the same path with the same resources, the black kid is more likely come across obstacles than the white kid. It sucks, and we need to do as much as we can to remove those obstacles, but that's unfortunately how it is, even 50 years after civil rights movements.
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What obstacles are they? Since you are speaking of this situation so definitively. What are those obstacles? Why are they there? You can't just claim there are obstacles without being able to provide some level of proof.


Because they don't. The system is already sort of fixed in favor of the straight, white, wealthy male.
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What about the straight, poor, white male vs the straight wealthy black male?

Be honest..... ones level of economic status is what determines their chances of success.... not their race. That is not to say that poor whites and blacks don't make it and rich people never fail... which is why I used the word CHANCES. Ambition is a powerful characteristic..... Ambitious blacks don't allow VICTIMHOOD to keep them down.... Isn't that Right "Young Money Millionaire"???



Generally, a white person can willingly put themselves in a situation where they are victims of racial discrimination, but they can also willingly remove themselves from that. I don't fault them for that, nor blame them, that's sort of where "white guilt" comes from, which is something that's been fabricated by the left to deal with racism. However, I think it's important that white people understand that they have a certain privilege that other groups of people do not.
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I have no advantages... in fact, being white in my previous workplace was a disadvantage.


I haven't come across a situation in which a white person experiences racism for their entire life the way a black person might, can you give me an example so I understand?
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Maybe its because you are assuming that a black person experiences racism his/her entire life, on an individual level, just because they are black without knowing anything about someone's life.

You are generalizing all blacks as victims of racism.
 
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DiavoTheMiavo said:
Yeah . . . in your world I proved your point. God . . . it's like there is a Bizarro World on planet Earth.
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Ah what the heck, I'll explain since you still don't get it. The point was the word was on it's way out until black folks adopted and co-opted it, using it incessently. Had they not done that, someday it would have been like 23 skidoo, an expression you vaguely remember existed but can't quite remember enough to get it right.
 
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DiavoTheMiavo said:
I cannot show it here . . . but I see it every damn day. White people saying, "Nigger" every frickin' day. It exists . . . in fact it is right here in this thread. Even if they cannot intellectually be honest about it . . . certain folks have established their true nature.
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So a white person saying nigger on a message board equals systematic racism convicting them of crimes in a court of law because of their race?
 
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radcen said:
Ok, so this begs the question: What snacks would have been acceptable?

Seriously. While I have no doubt there are legitimate issues that need to be resolved overall, this particular gripe comes off as just griping for gripe's sake. It sounds like the people who hosted are damned if they do, damned if they don't.
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Exactly.

It is the EXACT type of baseless accusations of racism I am talking about.
 
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Hatuey said:
I think that was a bit of a joke. Everybody likes chicken.
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Its true.

In fact... I am hurt that Black people get Chicken, Watermelon, and Collards..

I grew up on those things.... those are SOUTHERN comfort foods.... not "Black people food".
 
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clownboy said:
Where do you live? I'm not denying your experience, it's just that the only time I've heard that word used in anything other than legitimate discussions about racism or the movies has been from the mouths of urban black youths (at least in the last couple decades).

But then I've lived in the Western states during that time.
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I'm from the south and I didn't grow up hearing it either. The "N" word was considered coarse and vulgar.
 
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Caine said:
Its true.

In fact... I am hurt that Black people get Chicken, Watermelon, and Collards..

I grew up on those things.... those are SOUTHERN comfort foods.... not "Black people food".
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Yes, they are. I would be happy to feast on those things any day.
 
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Maenad said:
I'm from the south and I didn't grow up hearing it either. The "N" word was considered coarse and vulgar.
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Thanks for speaking up. Wouldn't it be nice if we returned to considering the word crass and vulgar?
 
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ThePlayDrive said:
1. You need to learn the definition of "racism" because nothing he said, at all, fits it.

2. I'm tired of (usually) white people (in fact, it's usually white males) who continue to respond so self-righteously and ignorantly to the experiences with race that some minorities have. There is a certain sect of the white (usually heterosexual, Christian, male) population who seem to willfully prevent themselves from understanding that the white experience of race is often dramatically different from the experience of racially marginalized groups. Then, when that sect is confronted with someone who sheds light on one of those different experiences, they cry "racist" and "but what if a white guy said it" instead of actually doing a critical analysis of what was said. It's unbelievable. Educate yourselves.
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And some minorities like Vietnamese boat people come here and seem to be able to assimulate and build new lives from nothing.
 
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DiavoTheMiavo said:
It is a word that originated from slavery. It's still here. 21-scoodoo popular now? What's sad isn't mentioned here . . . but it should be.
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No it isn't. It's just the bastardization of the word 'negro.' In the south there are a LOT of words that are not pronounced in the king's English. That is just one. I could give you a list. When I finally got the opportunity to get an education I became VERY careful what words I used because many that I grew up with were not the correct pronunciation and would get you laughed at. I never gave up my 'expression's though, nor would I give up the accent. Some things are not negotiable.
 
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American said:
And some minorities like Vietnamese boat people come here and seem to be able to assimulate and build new lives from nothing.
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As are Hispanics who aren't even tolerated simply BECAUSE they are Hispanic.
 
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Maenad said:
I'm from the south and I didn't grow up hearing it either. The "N" word was considered coarse and vulgar.
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I heard it quite a bit but usually from people who were into rap, white or black. I have probably heard the black variant (no R at the end) come out of more black mouths than white ones in my life.
 
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clownboy said:
Thanks for speaking up. Wouldn't it be nice if we returned to considering the word crass and vulgar?
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I don't hear white people using it.
 
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Fisher said:
I heard it quite a bit but usually from people who were into rap, white or black. I have probably heard the black variant (no R at the end) come out of more black mouths than white ones in my life.
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Well I don't listen to rap.
 
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These other people don't understand what's going to happen.

If we white people don't stick together and fight against it, our white privelige will be take away from us. We have to stand together to prevent whites from being discriminated against.
 
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This is the type of society Jamie Foxx's thinking is going to bring us....

Bob, a white man, works in insurance sales and is friends with Walter, who is a black man. They are "work friends" and Bob finally invites Walter and his family over for a family dinner get together, which was planned by his wife. Bob, being a normal man, doesn't ask his wife what is for dinner before extending the invitation to his friend. On the day of the dinner, Bob learns that his wife is making fried chicken, mashed potatoes, corn, deviled eggs, corn bread, and pecan pie. Bob now feels the need to uninvite Walter because he is afraid he will offend Walter and his family with the idea of inviting them over to eat and serving fried chicken.


Gay.
(Im sure some will say my example is gay too, so be it).
 
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johnny_rebson said:
These other people don't understand what's going to happen.

If we white people don't stick together and fight against it, our white privelige will be take away from us. We have to stand together to prevent whites from being discriminated against.
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Uhhhh..........




No.


Just No.
 
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