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    Re: GOP Authorized Half A Million Dollars In Secret to Defend DOMA, While Publicly Op

    Like it or not, the government has a positive duty to defend it's laws.

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    Re: GOP Authorized Half A Million Dollars In Secret to Defend DOMA, While Publicly Op

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    GOP Authorized Half A Million Dollars In Secret to Defend DOMA, While Publicly Opposing Spending

    "The updated contract now authorizes Bancroft LLC and Republican Paul Clement, former solicitor general, to spend up to $2 million in defense of DOMA, double the original agreement."

    So the republicans are secretly spending money for DOMA. It looks like they passed a little secret bill that lets them spend 2 million on an unpopular law. The next time some republican paints themselves as a fiscal conservative remind them they blow a lot of money on keeping gay dudes from getting married on a federal level despite claiming it is a state issue. Thanks guys, and for that 2 million dollars you could have given 1666 people the maximum food stamps funds available to them. So yes, keeping gay dudes from marrying is more important to republicans that food for 1666 people. keeping gay dudes from marrying is more important than cutting spending by the government. keeping gay dudes from marrying is more important than keeping government out of your life. Oh, and keeping gay dudes from marrying is more important that the constitution, or the people of the US who feel that we should let them marry.
    Meanwhile democrats petition the House to authorize billions and trillions in spending.

    The GOP can authorize whatever they want in the House - that doesn't mean the Senate will sign off on it.

    A half million is peanuts - it's $500,000 dollars - or to equate it into an analogy a progressive could understand - The salary of three union employees or we could just say it costs the taxpayers less than 1/100th of a cent.

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    Re: GOP Authorized Half A Million Dollars In Secret to Defend DOMA, While Publicly Op

    I'd like to understand what happened more exactly. If a few guys did this, it may be not a "Republican" thing but a bigot thing or even a noble religious thing. I don't support condemning a whole group by the actions of a few.

    I think you know I am an avid supporter of equality including SSM. So I'm not here to defend "Republicans". I'm here to understand the circumstances and those involved and how this was accomplished. DOMA is a law - a horrid one IMHO - but all our laws are complex and tons of money are wasted on them. So, we need toi know much more before we decide that all "republicans" are bad guys.

    As far as wasting money - well, that's hardly a single party misbehavior. Billions are spent that are unnecessary by ALL politicians. A few million here, a few million there, before you know it you have an amount that is negligible in context.

    So, my request for more details is exactly that. A desire to know.

    I'll also mention that EVERYTHING has supporters and detractors. This doesn't translate to "hate", just to differences in opinion.



    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    It is amazing republicans don't have anything to say about this. They seem to enjoy spending money on hate.

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    Re: GOP Authorized Half A Million Dollars In Secret to Defend DOMA, While Publicly Op

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    So the government should not spend money on attorneys' defending any case then right?
    So you are for the government withdrawing its attacks on AZ, Texas - no doubt Michigans' RTW law?
    Or just DOMA?
    I don't like the state approaching someone, without just cause, and challenging their US citizenship. (And you know that is the way it first started out.) And as for the voter ID thing, I feel that it constitutes as a poll tax; you should not be under any burden to purchase something in order to vote; it's unconstitutional. And as for that RTW law, I believe that the folks in Michigan will take care of that just like we took care of something similar here in Ohio.
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    Re: GOP Authorized Half A Million Dollars In Secret to Defend DOMA, While Publicly Op

    So when its your agenda its fine that our government spend money promoting it / defending it in court, but when its not you want to blast the government for spending money. That is hypocritical which is how the left rolls - I get it. I just like to point it out because its so deserving.

    Oh and the Texas law made photo ID available at no cost so the "poll tax" BS is just that - BS.

    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    I don't like the state approaching someone, without just cause, and challenging their US citizenship. (And you know that is the way it first started out.) And as for the voter ID thing, I feel that it constitutes as a poll tax; you should not be under any burden to purchase something in order to vote; it's unconstitutional. And as for that RTW law, I believe that the folks in Michigan will take care of that just like we took care of something similar here in Ohio.

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    Re: GOP Authorized Half A Million Dollars In Secret to Defend DOMA, While Publicly Op

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    So when its your agenda its fine that our government spend money promoting it / defending it in court, but when its not you want to blast the government for spending money. That is hypocritical which is how the left rolls - I get it. I just like to point it out because its so deserving.

    Oh and the Texas law made photo ID available at no cost so the "poll tax" BS is just that - BS.
    Fine. Go tell John Boehner that; he is the one telling the American public just how much spending we're doing.

    And please explain how the photo id is at no cost.
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    Re: GOP Authorized Half A Million Dollars In Secret to Defend DOMA, While Publicly Op

    The Texas law provided for a photo identification for anyone that needed it at no cost to the public.

    As for telling Boehner I would declare him a hypocrite too - like you - if he advocated cutting the DOJ's
    budget for arguing its cases in court but to my knowledge he's not doing that - only you and the
    others mystically outraged here at government hiring lawyers to defend a position in court is some
    how wrong?


    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    Fine. Go tell John Boehner that; he is the one telling the American public just how much spending we're doing.

    And please explain how the photo id is at no cost.

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    Re: GOP Authorized Half A Million Dollars In Secret to Defend DOMA, While Publicly Op

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    The Texas law provided for a photo identification for anyone that needed it at no cost to the public.
    OK. Where did that money come from?
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    Re: GOP Authorized Half A Million Dollars In Secret to Defend DOMA, While Publicly Op

    Why is it relevant - you said it was a poll tax - you were wrong.


    Quote Originally Posted by RLN View Post
    OK. Where did that money come from?

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    Re: GOP Authorized Half A Million Dollars In Secret to Defend DOMA, While Publicly Op

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Why is it relevant - you said it was a poll tax - you were wrong.
    I'll ask again: where does the money come from to give people free ids?
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