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    European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    PARIS—A European court issued a landmark ruling Thursday that condemned the CIA's so-called extraordinary renditions programs and bolstered those who say they were illegally kidnapped and tortured as part of an overzealous war on terrorism.The European Court of Human Rights ruled that a German car salesman was a victim of torture and abuse, in a long-awaited victory for a man who had failed for years to get courts in the United States and Europe to recognize him as a victim.
    Khaled El-Masri says he was kidnapped from Macedonia in 2003, mistaken for a terrorism suspect, then held for four months and brutally interrogated at an Afghan prison known as the "Salt Pit" run by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency. He says that once U.S. authorities realized he was not a threat, they illegally sent him to Albania and left him on a mountainside.

    But several other legal cases are pending from Britain to Hong Kong involving people who say they were illegally detained in the CIA program. Its critics hope that Thursday's ruling will lead to court victories for other rendition victims.

    A U.N. special rapporteur on human rights, the American Civil Liberties Union, the International Committee of Jurists and Amnesty International were among others hailing the ruling as a long-awaited breakthrough.




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    Macedonia and with the USA's CIA were condemned by the European Court of Human Rights. It was a landmark case that condemned various US practices on treatment and unlawful holding of prisoners. I support this finding and findings, if the US want to be viewed more highly throughout the world these kind of practices need to stop.


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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    Not to be a bubble burster, but this isn't going to do anything regarding the CIA's rendition program and thus effectively useless.
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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    Kidnapping and torturing people all over the world without evidence or trials? That sounds like my 'Merica.
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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Not to be a bubble burster, but this isn't going to do anything regarding the CIA's rendition program and thus effectively useless.
    I agree but condemning and bringing international attention to this issue is always a good thing and a start.


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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    Well we should appaud mr.obama for stopping this nonsense of kidnapping and torturing anyone in our
    war on terror - he just kills them by remote controll using a drone instead. Does that fit the "progressive"
    term many think apply to him?

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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Well we should appaud mr.obama for stopping this nonsense of kidnapping and torturing anyone in our
    war on terror - he just kills them by remote controll using a drone instead. Does that fit the "progressive"
    term many think apply to him?
    Nope.
    But way to bring Obama into this


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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    I would love to sympathise with the European court of human rights but since they are a joke and have absolutely no credibility what so ever in my book, I have to just go "meh" and accept that the CIA know what they are doing. At least they are doing something, unlike the ECHR who just take one stupid measure after another.

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    Well I thought it was appropriate since he has said torture is wrong and has
    insured to all we stopped it - kind of making this French a little late to the party
    don't you think? Silly French.

    And I do think he must have stopped it since killing all the people by drone makes
    it kind of hard to incarcerate and torture them.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Nope.
    But way to bring Obama into this

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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Not to be a bubble burster, but this isn't going to do anything regarding the CIA's rendition program and thus effectively useless.
    The only value to the ruling is that most USA Americans don't believe the CIA was doing this and now they will have to continue pretending that the ruling is bullsh*t. Now, one must decide if the popular mentality is the propensity to stupidity or simply a well washed mind, keeping out the dirty, bad thoughts.

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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Well we should appaud mr.obama for stopping this nonsense of kidnapping and torturing anyone in our
    war on terror - he just kills them by remote controll using a drone instead. Does that fit the "progressive"
    term many think apply to him?
    This practice did not start with Obama if you remember. Probably not though convenient denial
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