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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Well we should appaud mr.obama for stopping this nonsense of kidnapping and torturing anyone in our
    war on terror - he just kills them by remote controll using a drone instead. Does that fit the "progressive"
    term many think apply to him?
    No, it does not.

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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Well, Obama is President now, so we won't have any more problems with human rights abuses, right?

    Or, at least, Democrats and liberals won't complain about them as much.
    Democrats will no dount defend Obama regarding these violations. Liberals won't.

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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    The Securitate claimed they knew what they where doing when they imprisoned and tortured the innocent also. And we no for certain that they do not when we look at cases like Mozam Beg's and Binyamin Mohammed's.
    Yes well, I never said that the initiative to restrain CIA power and make it respect national boundaries isn't a good thing. I am far in favor of that and the judicial process and all the things that are characteristics of western civilization. But... it also depends who the messenger is. Protests in the street over this? Sure. Public demands and discussions in Parliaments... sure.

    Have an inept institution who has an abominable track record in dealing with issues only brings non-credibility and galvanizes the whole thing is just about the worst way you can send out a message.

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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    Democrats will no dount defend Obama regarding these violations. Liberals won't.
    Yes, kudos to liberals who have been consistent about their stance on these issues regardless who is President. Glenn Greenwald comes to mind. Many have not been so consistent.

    My own stance is that the President as Commander in Chief has a tremendous amount of authority to conduct operations against foreign enemies, and that he does indeed have the legal authority to do these things. Whether they have ever been good policy or not is another matter.

    "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." --HL Mencken

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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    "Landmark Ruling?"

    Pretty funny. Is there a single, solitary person in the United States that actually gives a sht?

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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    What's next? They gonna toss some stinky cheese?

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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    Democrats will no dount defend Obama regarding these violations. Liberals won't.
    actually polling indicates the majority of self identified liberals support the policy, at least now.

    Liberals, Dems approve of drone strikes on American citizens abroad - The Plum Line - The Washington Post

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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Well we should appaud mr.obama for stopping this nonsense of kidnapping and torturing anyone in our
    war on terror - he just kills them by remote controll using a drone instead. Does that fit the "progressive"
    term many think apply to him?
    You might be forgetting what the Prez did to Bradley Manning. It was not civilized, and his actions work against the notion that ours is a civilized government.

    This country is now known as a torturer and agent-of-death.

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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    You might be forgetting what the Prez did to Bradley Manning. It was not civilized, and his actions work against the notion that ours is a civilized government. This country is now known as a torturer and agent-of-death.
    What did the prez do to Bradley Manning?

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    Re: European court condemns CIA in landmark ruling

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    You might be forgetting what the Prez did to Bradley Manning. It was not civilized, and his actions work against the notion that ours is a civilized government.

    This country is now known as a torturer and agent-of-death.
    Good reason for idiots to quit screwing with us.

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