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Anti-abortion dry cleaner puts message on his wire coat hangers

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I don't think you understand the pro-life stance if you think that's what it's all about.

I've been wondering when I was going to get a chance to obliterate you over this issue again. You love playing semantics. So let's play.

Do I understand the 'pro-life' side? Oh, I definitely understand it. Ban elective abortions ie. reproductive choice. It's that simple. Now, do you know what women use to do when they had no reproductive choice?

I'll give you a clue: coat hangers.
 
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I don't think you understand the pro-life stance if you think that's what it's all about.

That's the inevitable result of the pro-life stance, regardless of intentions.
 
I've been wondering when I was going to get a chance to obliterate you over this issue again. You love playing semantics. So let's play.

Do I understand the 'pro-life' side? Oh, I definitely understand it. Ban elective abortions ie. reproductive choice. It's that simple. Now, do you know what women use to do when they had no reproductive choice?

I'll give you a clue: coat hangers.

I don't ever remember you "obliterating" me.

You see it as "reproductive choice" and I see it as human rights for the unborn that are obviously having their rights violated.
 
I don't ever remember you "obliterating" me.

You see it as "reproductive choice" and I see it as human rights for the unborn that are obviously having their rights violated.

Yawn, son, tell it to somebody who doesn't know your history on this forum. You see it as an infringement on the arguably fictional desires of the deity you've bet all your chips on. I don't honestly care about your beliefs as long as you keep them to you and yours. The choice is up to the woman. Not your religious beliefs.
 
Yawn, son, tell it to somebody who doesn't know your history on this forum. You see it as an infringement on the arguably fictional desires of the deity you've bet all your chips on. :shrug:

That's nice. If you know me so well on the forum you would also know that when arguing abortion I do not use religion nor do I quote things from the Bible. I see it as violating human rights due to the fact that an implanted zygote/fetus is human at all stages. Electively killing that life for any reason without restrictions is ethically wrong and a violation of human rights in my opinion and should not be allowed.

Regardless, this thread is not about the issue of abortion. If you would like to debate me on that then make a thread in the abortion forum with your arguments. I'd rather not derail this one.
 
That's nice. If you know me so well on the forum you would also know that when arguing abortion I do not use religion nor do I quote things from the Bible.

Of course you don't because that would reveal the true basis of your arguments. It's kind of like when the U.S. used "scientific arguments" in order to suppress everyone from Natives to the Irish. We all know the real reason was blatant xenophobia and in other cases racism. I'd at least consider you honest if you didn't double speak so much.
 
Of course you don't because that would reveal the true basis of your arguments. Actually, I'd at least consider you honest if you didn't double speak so much.

Think what you want about my arguments and basis behind them :shrug: What you are doing is committing a logical fallacy by not addressing what I say and going after your preconceived "fact" as to why I believe something and argue the way that I do and that it somehow invalidates my arguments. What isn't honest is you applying such things towards me.

Regardless, if you want to debate abortion or my stances on it this is not the place. I'm not going to derail this thread.
 
Think what you want about my arguments and basis behind them

I don't have to think anything about your arguments. I know the true reason you want to create 'logical' and 'legal' arguments against abortion is because you're not honest enough to simply say 'Hey, this is against my religion'.
 
You want to be Pro-Life, fine. You want to be Republican , fine. You want to be Democrat, fine. You want to be for same sex marriage , fine. You want to be against same sex marriage , fine.

But don't try to shove your crap on me. I am just getting my clothes clean at your establishment. We are not close buddies who get together for barbecues. We are not getting together to drink a beer and discuss current affairs.

I think I would prefer to pay the cleaner with dollar bills with the words "Free Abortions" across the dollars I pay him for doing my cleaning.
 
Pro-Life Dry Cleaner Puts Anti-Abortion Message on Coat Hangers

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Classy.

This reminds me of my recent bus excursion to Texas. All over the place in the American hinterland there are farm houses and water towers with gaudy anti-abortion messages plastered all about them, usually done up in annoying colours and occasionally misspelled. They remind me of Las Vegas, for some reason.

Seems like a practical enough message: make abortion illegal and women will go back to using coat hangers. What's inaccurate about that?
 
Pro-Life Dry Cleaner Puts Anti-Abortion Message on Coat Hangers

Classy.

This reminds me of my recent bus excursion to Texas. All over the place in the American hinterland there are farm houses and water towers with gaudy anti-abortion messages plastered all about them, usually done up in annoying colours and occasionally misspelled. They remind me of Las Vegas, for some reason.

I don't know about the bus you are talking about but putting 'choose life' on a coat hanger is a very mild and harmless message...

It's also one that most people support.
 
A time when anyone "HAD TO" take an innocent human life in aggression?


No, Hatuey, you did not live in such times.
 
Clearly he has a right to do so. Same with businesses that put political signs in their windows. However, if it is for something I oppose I won't do business there as I see it as financing the opposition.
 
I don't think you understand what "suppression" means. "Suppression" means actively forcing someone not to express a certain view. Again, the guy can do as he wants. It's his laundry mat. But opting not to go there, and agitating that others of a like mind not take their business there, isn't "suppressing" anything. That's the way markets work. And to insinuate it is "suppressing" his freedom of speech does nothing but suggest to me that you've never actually had your freedom of speech suppressed and wouldn't recognize it if you did.

Aren't you actively suppressing like minded views by calling his view point/actions dumb? Isn't demeaning opposing views a form a suppression?
 
When I bring my suits to the dry cleaners,I pay for them to be cleaned and pressed,not to be given someones personal beliefs on a wire hanger.
 
When I bring my suits to the dry cleaners,I pay for them to be cleaned and pressed,not to be given someones personal beliefs on a wire hanger.

I'm just happy to get all my buttons back. Beyond that, whatever.
 
I'm just happy to get all my buttons back. Beyond that, whatever.

I have a rather very expensive taste in clothing and if I find any buttons missing on my suits I'm gonna pitch a major bitch about it to the dry cleaner.:lol:
 
I have a rather very expensive taste in clothing and if I find any buttons missing on my suits I'm gonna pitch a major bitch about it to the dry cleaner.:lol:

Bitch all you want. They have a bucket the put the buttons in and say "have at it. if it isn't there, we didn't lose it"
 
Free speech. Don't like it, take your dry cleaning elsewhere. This whole thing? BFD. :wassat1:
 
Free speech. Don't like it, take your dry cleaning elsewhere. This whole thing? BFD. :wassat1:

I know what free speech is,I'd take my business elsewhere,and as a business owner myself it is my personal opinion that I using ones business to promote an ideology ( even one that reflects my own ideology) is rather crass.
 
I know what free speech is,I'd take my business elsewhere,and as a business owner myself it is my personal opinion that I using ones business to promote an ideology ( even one that reflects my own ideology) is rather crass.

:shrug: Then don't do it.
 
A time when anyone "HAD TO" take an innocent human life in aggression?

No, Hatuey, you did not live in such times.

Never claimed, I did. Here is a tiny 390px by 400px violin:

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I'll learn how to play it for you soon.
 
:shrug: Then don't do it.
I don't.My customers pay for a fine dining experience.not a political lecture on their menus.
If other business owners want to do something to that effect that's on them.
I have no desire to stop them.nor do I plan to use their services.

If some people have no problem with political messages included in the services they paid for,that is quite fine.
If others don't wnat political messueges included in the messages they paid for,that is quite fine also.
 
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I was totally going to give myself a coat hanger abortion, but when I took my 600 dollar dress off the coat hanger from my overpriced cleaners I saw the message not to do it. So feeling guilty I blew all my money on dry cleaning the dress I got pregnant in I totally decided not to use the coat hanger. lucky for me my boyfriend kicked me in the uterus when i told him he was going to be on the hook for child support payments for the rest of his life, and bingo no more abortion problem.

If you are give me your pointless political platitude you do it like a friggen american and write it on your bumper, not my damned cheap ass coat hangers. Seriously, i don't want to have to read about some chick's abortion when I am trying to unclog my bong or unlock some old car through a cracked window. What is next, pictures of republican candidates on my garbage bags or my toilet paper?
 
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