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    Re: Richest\Poorest Cities in USA

    Did you all see this?

    10 POOREST STATES,

    #1 Mississippi, Right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #2 Arkansas, Right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #3 Tennessee, Right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #4 West Virginia, Mostly Republican State, strong coal miners Union, but anti smog regulation

    #5 Louisiana, Right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #6 Montana, Solid Republican State

    #7 S. Carolina, right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #8 Kentucky, Mostly Republican State

    #9 Alabama, right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #10 N. Carolina, right to work state, Mostly Republican State

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    Re: Richest\Poorest Cities in USA

    Interesting that they only focus on median income, not median income vs cost of living.

    Try Cost of Living Comparison: compare San Jose, California to Detroit, Michigan

    I ran the numbers for San Jose and Detroit.

    That $77,000 in San Jose buys you the same as $36,000 in Detroit. Now Detroit is still poorer than San Jose because median income in Detroit does not rise to the $36,000 level. However, if you compare San Jose, Cal with Dallas Texas, that $77,000 would get you the equivalent of $40,000 when adjust for cost of living. However, Dallas has a median income of $55,546, well above that $40,000. So is San Jose really richer? The average citizen in Dallas can actually buy more with $55K than the average resident in San Jose that makes $77k.

    Some want to measure wealth only in dollar amounts, but to me, wealth is a measure of what you get for the money you have.

    So go ahead, make the comparisons on cost of living vs income and their list is not exactly accurate.
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    Re: Richest\Poorest Cities in USA

    I wonder why this report doesn't take COL into account? $60k a year for a family in Fort Wayne is damn near rich, but in NYC you'd barely be making it.
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    Re: Richest\Poorest Cities in USA

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Interesting that they only focus on median income, not median income vs cost of living.

    Try Cost of Living Comparison: compare San Jose, California to Detroit, Michigan

    I ran the numbers for San Jose and Detroit.

    That $77,000 in San Jose buys you the same as $36,000 in Detroit. Now Detroit is still poorer than San Jose because median income in Detroit does not rise to the $36,000 level. However, if you compare San Jose, Cal with Dallas Texas, that $77,000 would get you the equivalent of $40,000 when adjust for cost of living. However, Dallas has a median income of $55,546, well above that $40,000. So is San Jose really richer? The average citizen in Dallas can actually buy more with $55K than the average resident in San Jose that makes $77k.

    Some want to measure wealth only in dollar amounts, but to me, wealth is a measure of what you get for the money you have.

    So go ahead, make the comparisons on cost of living vs income and their list is not exactly accurate.
    Real dollars > Nominal dollars.
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    Re: Richest\Poorest Cities in USA

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Did you all see this?

    10 POOREST STATES,

    #1 Mississippi, Right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #2 Arkansas, Right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #3 Tennessee, Right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #4 West Virginia, Mostly Republican State, strong coal miners Union, but anti smog regulation

    #5 Louisiana, Right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #6 Montana, Solid Republican State

    #7 S. Carolina, right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #8 Kentucky, Mostly Republican State

    #9 Alabama, right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #10 N. Carolina, right to work state, Mostly Republican State
    Ok, now compare your list and affiliations with a cost of living adjustment, which are the ten worst places to actually make a living after you include cost of living.

    Worst States to Make a Living 2012

    1. Hawaii, Dem, no right to work,

    2. Maine, Dem, no right to work

    3. Vermont, Dem, no right to work

    4. Mississippi, also on your list but falls from #1 to #4

    5. Montana, also on your list but moves up from #6 to #5, no right to work

    6. Rhode Island, Dem, no right to work

    7. California, Dem, no right to work

    8. West Virginia, You call it Rep, no right to work. Also drops from #4 down to #8

    9. S. Carolina, on your list but drops from #7 to #9

    10. S. Dakota, Rep, right to work

    And the 10 "richest" Best States to Make a Living 2012

    4 Right to work states, not including Michigan since they only recently/currently are making the change. 1 remained the same as last year, 3 moved upwards. Of the non right to work, 1 remained at same ranking from last year, 2 moved up (Michigan being one of them) and all the rest fell.

    So 4 right to work states at the top, 4 at the bottom it seems to average out when you consider right to work vs no right to work after you include other factors such as cost of living.
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    Re: Richest\Poorest Cities in USA

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Did you all see this?

    10 POOREST STATES,

    #1 Mississippi, Right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #2 Arkansas, Right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #3 Tennessee, Right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #4 West Virginia, Mostly Republican State, strong coal miners Union, but anti smog regulation

    #5 Louisiana, Right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #6 Montana, Solid Republican State

    #7 S. Carolina, right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #8 Kentucky, Mostly Republican State

    #9 Alabama, right to work state, Solid Republican State

    #10 N. Carolina, right to work state, Mostly Republican State
    http://www.ncsl.org/legislatures-ele...te-charts.aspx
    Of your list, Arkansas' Legislature was actually Dem controlled in both houses prior to the last election (Nov 2012) when it switched, so not "solid Republican" as you claim. In West Virginia, Dems did and still control both houses in the state. So not mostly republican. Kentucky, Dems control the house both before and after election.

    List of current United States governors - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Of the Governors, Arkansas, Kentucky, Montana, N. Carolina, W. Virginia all have Dems as Governors.

    So Arkansas is not Solid Republican, W. Virginia is not mostly republican, Kentucky is not Mostly Republican, Montana is not Solid Republican, as you stated.
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    Re: Richest\Poorest Cities in USA

    With the exception of West Virginia and Montana the states listed have very large
    minority populations.

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    Re: Richest\Poorest Cities in USA

    Quote Originally Posted by Longstreet View Post
    With the exception of West Virginia and Montana the states listed have very large
    minority populations.
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    Re: Richest\Poorest Cities in USA

    Philadelphia was a surprise on the list of bottom 5
    Memphis in the bottom 5? With the cost of living there - $35K a year is decent money there....I dont get that one. Apparently they dont do it by a cost of living index.

    Washington D.C. in the top 5 is not a surprise by any stretch of the imagination....politicians & lobbyists have residences there...plus a host of government employees.
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    Re: Richest\Poorest Cities in USA

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    You know I was looking at this and wondering why we don't impose a tax on the top 5 and give it to the bottom 5? I mean come on we want "fairness" right?
    You know I like you. Good thinking, the liberals will surely support that. That's a great liberal policy.
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