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    Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Ah, but I can understand it. What now, Eizige?
    The point is that your initial point is dumb as Hell.

    Do you consider yourself a moral relativist, Maggie?
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    Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If you can't understand why a 76-year-old man might discriminate against gays, you are as close-minded as he is.
    I can understand it, but I'm not going to pretend that it's not wrong. And I'm sure as **** not going to not fight when he tries to discriminate against me.
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    Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

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    That is a ridiculous argument. But it still isn't directly comparing murder and homosexuality, and it certainly isn't equating them.
    If Scalia wasn't making the comparison then why did he say it?

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    Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    That is a ridiculous argument. But it still isn't directly comparing murder and homosexuality, and it certainly isn't equating them.
    The fact that he seriously thinks that being gay, and murder are on the same plane morally is damning enough. He wouldn't make the argument otherwise.
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    Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    If wasn't making the comparison then why did he say it?
    He was comparing the ability of having moral feelings about homosexuality and murder. He was not comparing homosexuality and murder themselves.
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    Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    The point is that your initial point is dumb as Hell.

    Do you consider yourself a moral relativist, Maggie?
    I'd be happy to answer that if I knew what a moral relativist was, Einzige. But if you went through these last three posts of yours to simply say, "Your initial point is dumb as hell," then it really doesn't make much difference. You're a very poor communicator. That likes obscure terms. Obscure terms =/= intelligence.
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    Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    The fact that he seriously thinks that being gay, and murder are on the same plane morally is damning enough. He wouldn't make the argument otherwise.
    I think he was just trying to take the most outrageous example of having moral feelings about an outlawed act to make his point. His statement does not mean he necissarily thinks murder and homosexuality are on the same plane morally, unless the plane includes everything he thinks is immoral.
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    Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'd be happy to answer that if I knew what a moral relativist was, Einzige. But if you went through these last three posts of yours to simply say, "Your initial point is dumb as hell," then it really doesn't make much difference. You're a very poor communicator. That likes obscure terms. Obscure terms =/= intelligence.
    Jesus Christ, "moral relativism" isn't an 'obscure term'. Goddamned John Hagee uses it liberally in condemning modern society. It's long been a favorite watchword of undereducated right-wing moralists, and 'moral relativists' rarely apply the term to themselves.

    Let me put it in a language you can understand: do you think that some moral rules apply more to some people than to others?
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    Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I can understand it, but I'm not going to pretend that it's not wrong. And I'm sure as **** not going to not fight when he tries to discriminate against me.
    I feel better that you can understand it, YourStar. And I don't blame you one iota for disagreeing with his archaic way of thinking. He's an old man...from an older world. In regards todays' morals, his thoughts are irrelevant, in my opinion.
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    Re: Justice Scalia compares homosexuality to murder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    I think he was just trying to take the most outrageous example of having moral feelings about an outlawed act to make his point. His statement does not mean he necissarily thinks murder and homosexuality are on the same plane morally, unless the plane includes everything he thinks is immoral.
    I don't think so, he's a pretty big bigot.
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