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    Re: Lawmakers Could Restore Family Planning Funds

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Do what we do, you can't get out of sex ed. it's a requirement for graduation.
    It is here but its still a joke.
    "Those who do not learn from history and condemned to relive it".

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    Re: Lawmakers Could Restore Family Planning Funds

    Sex education needs to cover all the bases not just the politcally correct ones. They should show films of the effect of STD in classes to give the kids a real idea of what the problem is like they did in driving classes.
    "Those who do not learn from history and condemned to relive it".

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    Re: Lawmakers Could Restore Family Planning Funds

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfman24 View Post
    Sex education needs to cover all the bases not just the politcally correct ones. They should show films of the effect of STD in classes to give the kids a real idea of what the problem is like they did in driving classes.
    That's what they do here, abstinence is hardly even mentioned.

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    Re: Lawmakers Could Restore Family Planning Funds

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    Yes I realize expecting all people to actually act responsibly is a pipe dream.
    No one acts responsibly all the time. Absolutely no one.
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    Re: Lawmakers Could Restore Family Planning Funds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In fact I never mentioned Texas but I've been told abstinence actually works.
    Well of course it does. Right up until the moment you are not abstinent anymore.

    "Alright, everyone stop having sex" and expecting it to work... that doesn't work.
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    Re: Lawmakers Could Restore Family Planning Funds

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Well of course it does. Right up until the moment you are not abstinent anymore.

    "Alright, everyone stop having sex" and expecting it to work... that doesn't work.
    Who are you quoting here?

    The fact is that abstinence does work and it should be encouraged for young people. Why not? There are more unwed mothers than ever, more irresponsible fathers and yet, paradoxically it seems, more sex education than ever. All this sex ed. and we still need "Planned Parenthood" with the government providing abortions!

    Where did we go wrong? Too many conservatives?

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    Re: Lawmakers Could Restore Family Planning Funds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Who are you quoting here?

    The fact is that abstinence does work and it should be encouraged for young people. Why not? There are more unwed mothers than ever, more irresponsible fathers and yet, paradoxically it seems, more sex education than ever. All this sex ed. and we still need "Planned Parenthood" with the government providing abortions!

    Where did we go wrong? Too many conservatives?
    Nice unfounded and unrelated instances you laced together there. More unwed mothers, more irresponsible fathers and more sex ed than ever. Therefore more sex ed caused the formers and there is absolutely no other influences in our society. Logic doesn't work that way.

    Abstinence works until you chose to have sex. And almost everyone chooses to have sex. Therefore just telling people not to have sex doesn't work because they will agree, then go out and have sex. Abstinence only doesn't deal with facts. It deals with a fairyland notion.
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    Re: Lawmakers Could Restore Family Planning Funds

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Nice unfounded and unrelated instances you laced together there. More unwed mothers, more irresponsible fathers and more sex ed than ever. Therefore more sex ed caused the formers and there is absolutely no other influences in our society. Logic doesn't work that way.
    The paradox is clearly there because the supporters of sex education once said that young people would be better educated and as a reult there would be fewer unwanted pregnancies and abortions. That was their main argument and yet we see the reverse occurring. Do you have an explanation for this paradox?

    Abstinence works until you chose to have sex.
    Correct, and then you have safe sex,. or sex which is as safe as knowledge can make it.

    And almost everyone chooses to have sex. Therefore just telling people not to have sex doesn't work
    That's completely incorrect because at one time most people did not choose to have sex, knowing what the consequences might be.
    because they will agree, then go out and have sex. Abstinence only doesn't deal with facts. It deals with a fairyland notion.
    Then you are completely unaware of the sexual history of Europe and North America, which should raise raise a question mark regarding your own sex education courses.

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    Re: Lawmakers Could Restore Family Planning Funds

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There are more unwed mothers than ever, more irresponsible fathers and yet
    But teen pregnancy rates have actually fallen rapidly over the last 20 years...


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    Re: Lawmakers Could Restore Family Planning Funds

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    But teen pregnancy rates have actually fallen rapidly over the last 20 years...

    I don't know where you got your stats but here is the real deal over a longer time period.

    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db18.pdf

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